Hi all, I agree with most of the concerns voiced in this thread.
In the initial email David wrote: > To help new contributors understand more about what they're getting involved > with, we've drafted a new volunteer agreement. If this is the real reason for the agreement, we should emphasize positive aspects. Mozilla is a fun place to be at! Let's search for a concise, positive way to describe that. I am wondering if there are also other reasons for the agreement. Do we want or need to cover legal aspects? If we agree on the "why" (i.e. reason for the agreement) I am sure we will find a good way of conveying that message in a volunteer agreement. Regards, Henrik -- Henrik Mitsch > On 30.05.2014, at 21:43, Majken Connor <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm wondering if we're misunderstanding the purpose of this agreement, or > maybe people are approaching it from different angles? > > It seems worded to me to address the need to have a formal agreement when > we want to give certain responsibilities to volunteer contributors. We're > missing something generic like this, and this is partly why it's much > easier to give Reps responsibilities and include them without being able to > give the same trust and responsibility to other volunteers. > > Especially the part where you need to notify or get notified that you're no > longer contributing, that seems incredibly overkill if this is a general > understanding between Mozilla and volunteers, but it makes perfect sense if > it's in the context that we've just given a volunteer a responsibility or > leadership role. > > >> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Emma Irwin <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> This feels exclusionary of casual contributors, of which there are many. >> >> I'm assuming they wouldn't even know who to contact when ending >> contribution - does that mean I can't come back? I also prefer this >> wording which uses the term 'participation' rather than 'work'. >> >> The contributor has turned up because, more than likely they feel connected >> to a specific piece of the project - they're excited. Onboarding should >> feel less like you're starting a new job, more like opportunity to make a >> difference and contribute. +1 to citizenship. >> >> I would also warn that legalize in such a contract will concern those with >> work visas. Original version made me feel uncomfortable as well. >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Sheeri Cabral <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I agree with what others have said, and I'll throw in an alternative >> idea. >>> >>> Here's some changes I made, taking out redundancies (e.g. behaving >>> appropriately is covered under the participation guidelines), and putting >>> the "you can end your participation" part at the end. Because that's not >>> the first thing we should tell a new person, in my opinion. >>> >>> -------------- >>> >>> DRAFT Volunteer Agreement >>> >>> Welcome to Mozilla! We're pleased that you will be working with us to >>> volunteer your expertise, knowledge, and skills to our Project. We are >>> happy to have you along as a Mozillian. >>> >>> Before we begin, you might want to be aware of the following: >>> >>> 1. Mozillians behave in a professional and respectable manner when >>> participating in the Project. Mozilla's Participation Guidelines can be >>> found at >>> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/policies/participation/ >>> >>> 2. Legally, you are not an employee or contractor of Mozilla and should >>> not represent yourself as such. As a volunteer, you cannot bind Mozilla >> to >>> any agreements or sign any agreements on behalf of Mozilla. >>> >>> 3. We love it when people talk about their contributions to Mozilla! >>> However, Mozilla does own some trademarks, so please do not use logos or >>> trademarks inappropriately. Mozilla's trademark policy can be found at >>> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/trademarks/policy/ >>> >>> 4. You or Mozilla may end your participation at any time for any reason >> on >>> immediate notice. If you wish to end your participation, simply let us >> know. >>> >>> We are excited to have you on board and hear your creative ideas! >>> >>> >>> -------------- >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:11:02 PM >>> Subject: Creating a volunteer agreement >>> >>> One of Mozilla's goals for this year is to increase the number of active >>> contributors by 10x. That means that many new people will be joining the >>> community and we want to make sure they have a positive experience. >>> >>> A few teams have contributor agreements that provide details about what >> it >>> means to volunteer in that specific area, but there's never been >>> information that covers contributors in general. >>> >>> To help new contributors understand more about what they're getting >>> involved with, we've drafted a new volunteer agreement. I wanted to share >>> the text of that and talk about how we would make this available. >>> >>> First though, I'd like to be clear about a couple of points: >>> >>> * This is not intended to be a document that people will sign. >>> >>> * This is not something that applies to existing contributors, just to >> new >>> people who are joining the community. >>> >>> After sharing the text of this here, on Planet and at an upcoming Monday >>> project call, we'd like to add this text as a new page on >>> http://www.mozilla.org. >>> >>> We would then link to that from the Get Involved page ( >>> mozilla.org/contribute), the entry point for most new contributors. We >>> would add this to the existing opt-in on the form that references >> Mozilla's >>> Privacy Policy. >>> >>> Please take a look at the text below and share your thoughts on that and >>> on how we would make this available to new contributors. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> David >>> >>> ----------------- >>> >>> DRAFT Volunteer Agreement >>> >>> Welcome to Mozilla! We're pleased that you will be working with us to >>> volunteer your expertise, knowledge, and skills to our Project. >>> >>> Before we begin, there are some basic terms you should be aware of and >>> agree to. The following is an agreement between you and Mozilla that >>> describes your volunteer work with the Project: >>> >>> 1. You or Mozilla may end this Agreement at any time for any reason on >>> immediate notice. If you wish to end the Agreement, simply email a >> Mozilla >>> staff member to let us know. >>> >>> 2. As a volunteer for our Project, you will be working with Mozilla >> staff, >>> employees and other volunteers. >>> >>> 3. We have policies at Mozilla to protect the Project and you. While >>> working with us, we want you to be creative and help us to grow the >>> Project, while observing the following rules: >>> >>> a. As a volunteer, you cannot bind Mozilla to any agreements or sign any >>> agreements on behalf of Mozilla, but you can introduce Mozilla to >> different >>> ideas, processes and ways of doing things; >>> >>> b. You are not an employee or contractor of Mozilla and should not >>> represent yourself as such; >>> >>> c. You cannot engage in any activities that violate the laws of your >>> locale, Mozilla's policies, or the rights of any group or individual; >>> >>> d. You agree to behave in a professional and respectable manner when >>> acting as a Mozilla volunteer. Mozilla's Participation Guidelines can be >>> found at >>> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/policies/participation/; >>> >>> e. It's definitely okay to talk about your contributions to Mozilla, but >>> you should not use Mozilla's logo or trademarks without Mozilla's prior >>> written consent. Mozilla's trademark policy can be found at >>> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/trademarks/policy/; and >>> >>> f. This Agreement is about you and only you. You may not transfer or give >>> this to any other person or group. >>> >>> g. If you violate any of these rules, Mozilla has the right to end this >>> agreement and your volunteer activities. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> governance mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance >>> _______________________________________________ >>> governance mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance >> >> >> >> -- >> Emma Irwin >> @sunnydeveloper >> Mozilla Reps Council Member >> _______________________________________________ >> governance mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance > _______________________________________________ > governance mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
