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On 08/26/2014 01:31 PM, Mike Hoye wrote:
> On 2014-08-26 1:10 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for your email!  I'm curious to know what jurisdiction
>> this data is going to be stored in.  If the answer is the US,
>> what steps have we taken to ensure that this data will be safe
>> from being accessed by the US government through a subpoena?  I
>> think given what we currently know about the hostile practices
>> employed by the US government in order to spy on non-US citizens,
>> as a non-US citizen I would be extremely uncomfortable if this
>> gives them a legal way to access this data.
> 
> For what it's worth, any server Mozilla controls is subject to the 
> American judicial system - FISA court orders, National Security
> Letters, regular old subpoenas, the works - just by virtue of
> Mozilla being based in California. That was settled in 1988, in the
> "Bank Of Nova Scotia Vs. United States" case.
> 
> The case: 
> http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=487&invol=250
>
>  See also:  http://www.insideprivacy.com/PatriotActQA.pdf
> 
> I share your concerns, but I don't think we can avoid being subject
> to the discovery laws, however egregious, of any country we have an
> office in.

Perhaps that can be enough of a reason to kill this catastrophically
bad idea while allowing its proponents to save face?

zw

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