On 5/22/15 17:09, Mike Connor wrote:

    The FreeBSD policy skirts the Kosovo issue in exactly the same way
    as I proposed earlier: it punts the question as to whether to
    include it in the list to ISO.


It does? That wasn't my reading, it explicitly rejects the naming conventions of ISO 3166 (which has TW as "Taiwan (Province of China)" and otherwise does not require the usage of ISO 3166, at least not at that link.

The policy, as far as I can tell, is for application to things like this:

  https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/blob/master/share/misc/iso3166

And this:

  https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/blob/master/etc/regdomain.xml


Neither of which have entries for Kosovo.


    I don't find anything in there to disagree with. I think it's a
    good policy.

    But it doesn't support your argument that we should use a modified
    version of ISO3166-1. That is delving quite squarely into, as you
    put it, "politics outside of issues clearly tied to the Mozilla
    mission."


I think it's patently absurd (and likely offensive to those directly impacted) to argue that we should require residents of Kosovo to identify themselves as living in Serbia because ISO doesn't yet recognize them as independent. We can and should trust an individual or group to exercise reasonable discretion around additions to the list to reflect the de facto reality of the world. The goal is to enable our community to connect more effectively and support the mission locally. Being rigid here doesn't serve the mission.

But what's the criteria for allowing this inclusion? Mike Connor's personal opinion? If I requested an entry for "The Republic of Texas," what would be the grounds for accepting or rejecting it?

The problem here isn't Kosovo per se; it's the precedent. If we accept new entries, then we need to define formal criteria for what rises to the level of being acceptable, and what does not -- the only other alternative is to use a subjective and possibly contentious evaluation for each request. Both paths lead us to being forced into politically dicey positions in the future.

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