This is so unproductive. Everyone seems more concerned with arguing their opinions than in actually making some sort of progress and as far as I can tell the people who are most active in this discussion aren't actually stakeholders who could take next steps in creating a formal proposal for a policy and getting it reviewed and approved.
First it needs to be decided if this is even a problem that needs a policy. How much does Mozilla care if the ISO currently used is controvertial? If Mozilla doesn't care, then the case needs to be made why Mozilla should care. If Mozilla does care, then someone who would own this should step forward and say "Mozilla cares, and I have the authority to drive this, here are the problems we need to solve to have a good policy." Y'all are arguing about what colour to paint the bikeshed and we don't even have a shed yet. Someone has just complained that they don't like where someone else's bike is parked. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Mike Connor <[email protected]> wrote: > It depends on what we > > On 26 May 2015 at 15:08, Boris Zbarsky <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 5/26/15 2:52 PM, Mike Connor wrote: > > > >> So, I'm a little lost on how this concept solves the original problem > >> here. A free-form field means these users could continue to identify > as a > >> part of Albania. > >> > > > > It also means that we could then ask them to stop doing that without > > forcing them to identify as being in Serbia. > > > > Yep, that's a step forward. As long as the search mechanism is able to > work. I'm not sure that's a safe assumption. If it's not, it means those > users are stuck being difficult/impossible to find. > > > > That is, it would create a _mechanism_ for an accurate identification > > here. Whether that mechanism is used is then a policy decision... > > > Whether it's used isn't my concern. It's whether it's _effective_ if used. > If the choice is "be findable through search or identify your location > accurately" the system is not effective. > > > > Isn't that more divisive and controversial than allowing > >> Kosovo into the list? > >> > > > > I'm not sure what you mean. Even if, today, we had Kosovo in the list, > > people could still pick "Albania" from the list instead just like they > did > > already. What would be do in that situation? Presumably ask them > politely > > to change to "Kosovo" instead, yes? > > > If they do that, it's not really different from me listing my location as > New York state. Inaccurate, and it'll make it harder for others to find > me. As long as territories don't overlap, it's basically just a user > picking the wrong thing. > > -- Mike > _______________________________________________ > governance mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance > _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
