Why is this a "good" list? This doesn't have an entry for Kosovo, nor for South Sudan, nor for the most recent incarnation of the various Netherlands Antilles (it still has "Netherlands Antilles" which is no longer a nation state entity)

~ Gijs

On 09/06/2015 10:02, Irvin Chen wrote:
Just learned that we have already a good list for Country/Region for
product.
Please use this instead of ISO3166 and make it into a L10n policy!

1) 
http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/toolkit/locales/en-US/chrome/global/regionNames.properties
2) http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/libs/product-details/regions/




2015-06-09 15:27 GMT+08:00 Irvin Chen <[email protected]>:

  I'd notice that recently, more and more new Mozilla website came exist
with this problematic ISO3166 problem.

For example,

Mozilla Location Service
https://location.services.mozilla.com/stats/countries

Shape of the Web
https://shapeoftheweb.mozilla.org/access/speed


We Do Need to set a policy (similar to FreeBSD one *1) for Mozilla widely,
or we will have to face all the problem again and again,
once every new Mozilla website come alive.

Here is also a better list for country/region entity name to use along
with country code from ISO3166,
http://geonames.nga.mil/gns/html/namefiles.html

*1 https://www.freebsd.org/internal/i18n.html


2015-06-05 15:16 GMT+08:00 Tim Guan-tin Chien <[email protected]>:

bump.....? any update on this? Should we move forward with an official
policy proposed here?

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Gervase Markham <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 23/05/15 21:40, Mike Hoye wrote:
- Defer to the ISO spec. We wash our hands of the matter, in other
words. This sends a very clear message to our community.

That's what we do now, right? This is the option with the disadvantage
that residents of Kosovo, if required to pick a country, must pick
either Serbia or Albania?

- Use the ISO spec plus a bunch of extra rules we make up. Charitably,
I
will call this a very bad idea. We should absolutely not do this.

Would you put the FreeBSD policy into this category?
http://www.freebsd.org/internal/i18n.html

You may say there's a slippery slope, but if you start from the ISO
spec, changing "Taiwan, Province of China" to simply "Taiwan" seems like
an obvious and widely-adopted improvement, which removes offence from
one set of people and (combined with a "Country or Region" label) does
not offend anyone else.

Is it really beyond our capabilities to figure out which rules fall into
the category of "clear improvement" and which do not?

- Make it a freeform text field and trust our people to exercise their
best judgement as members of the Mozilla community.

(For completeness: I proposed a way to do this that wouldn't entirely
break geographic search.)

Gerv

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