The list*1 had been inside Firefox for decades in preference/content/language setting *2, and you can see the L10n-ed version of the list directly inside Firefox *3, So I believed it's a list get really good care by our L10n communities worldwide, qualify enough to be shipped with Firefox.
*1 https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/locales/en-US/chrome/global/regionNames.properties *2 https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/preferences/languages.xul#45 *3 chrome://global/locale/regionNames.properties We can simply set an i18n policy to adopt the list Mozilla-wide, ensuring our website/product be kind to all of our users, and left all the changing and maintaining hesitate to our best local/l10n communities, who is absolutely good in filing bug and patching. (Vladimir Krstic: Here we need you to filing a bug for Kosovo please.) Together with language name list *4 *5, we can get a good and respectful list of locales and regions instead of ISO 3166, and it's even better - the list had already been localization! *4 http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/toolkit/locales/en-US/chrome/global/regionNames.properties *5 chrome://global/locale/regionNames.properties Irvin Taiwan 2015-06-09 18:10 GMT+08:00 Tim Guan-tin Chien <[email protected]>: > Instead of arguing what's missing from the current snapshot, we should > continue the discussion on framing a agreed policy. > > Thanks. > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Irvin Chen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Because it's what we currently used for our products. > > And anyone can file a bug on bugzilla to fix those problem you mentioned, > > in the mean time other project can adopt it without go through all > hesitate > > & resolving argues for ISO 3166 all again. > > > > > > > > > > 2015-06-09 17:52 GMT+08:00 Gijs Kruitbosch <[email protected]>: > > > >> Why is this a "good" list? This doesn't have an entry for Kosovo, nor > for > >> South Sudan, nor for the most recent incarnation of the various > Netherlands > >> Antilles (it still has "Netherlands Antilles" which is no longer a > nation > >> state entity) > >> > >> ~ Gijs > >> > >> On 09/06/2015 10:02, Irvin Chen wrote: > >> > >>> Just learned that we have already a good list for Country/Region for > >>> product. > >>> Please use this instead of ISO3166 and make it into a L10n policy! > >>> > >>> 1) > >>> > http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/toolkit/locales/en-US/chrome/global/regionNames.properties > >>> 2) http://viewvc.svn.mozilla.org/vc/libs/product-details/regions/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 2015-06-09 15:27 GMT+08:00 Irvin Chen <[email protected]>: > >>> > >>> I'd notice that recently, more and more new Mozilla website came > exist > >>>> with this problematic ISO3166 problem. > >>>> > >>>> For example, > >>>> > >>>> Mozilla Location Service > >>>> https://location.services.mozilla.com/stats/countries > >>>> > >>>> Shape of the Web > >>>> https://shapeoftheweb.mozilla.org/access/speed > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> We Do Need to set a policy (similar to FreeBSD one *1) for Mozilla > >>>> widely, > >>>> or we will have to face all the problem again and again, > >>>> once every new Mozilla website come alive. > >>>> > >>>> Here is also a better list for country/region entity name to use along > >>>> with country code from ISO3166, > >>>> http://geonames.nga.mil/gns/html/namefiles.html > >>>> > >>>> *1 https://www.freebsd.org/internal/i18n.html > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> 2015-06-05 15:16 GMT+08:00 Tim Guan-tin Chien <[email protected]>: > >>>> > >>>> bump.....? any update on this? Should we move forward with an > official > >>>>> policy proposed here? > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Gervase Markham <[email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 23/05/15 21:40, Mike Hoye wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> - Defer to the ISO spec. We wash our hands of the matter, in other > >>>>>>> words. This sends a very clear message to our community. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That's what we do now, right? This is the option with the > disadvantage > >>>>>> that residents of Kosovo, if required to pick a country, must pick > >>>>>> either Serbia or Albania? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - Use the ISO spec plus a bunch of extra rules we make up. > Charitably, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> I > >>>>> > >>>>>> will call this a very bad idea. We should absolutely not do this. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Would you put the FreeBSD policy into this category? > >>>>>> http://www.freebsd.org/internal/i18n.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You may say there's a slippery slope, but if you start from the ISO > >>>>>> spec, changing "Taiwan, Province of China" to simply "Taiwan" seems > >>>>>> like > >>>>>> an obvious and widely-adopted improvement, which removes offence > from > >>>>>> one set of people and (combined with a "Country or Region" label) > does > >>>>>> not offend anyone else. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Is it really beyond our capabilities to figure out which rules fall > >>>>>> into > >>>>>> the category of "clear improvement" and which do not? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - Make it a freeform text field and trust our people to exercise > their > >>>>>>> best judgement as members of the Mozilla community. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (For completeness: I proposed a way to do this that wouldn't > entirely > >>>>>> break geographic search.) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Gerv > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> governance mailing list > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance > >>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> governance mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> @ irvinfly: community liaison > >>>> moztw.org Mozilla Taiwan community > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> governance mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > @ irvinfly: community liaison > > moztw.org Mozilla Taiwan community > > _______________________________________________ > > governance mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance > -- @ irvinfly: community liaison moztw.org Mozilla Taiwan community _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
