Let's talk about other principle of The Mozilla Manifesto - number 8[1]: > Transparent community-based processes promote participation, accountability > and trust.
On Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 6:34:01 AM UTC+6, Sheeri Cabral wrote: > Do you know the conditions Mozilla is in, such that in this case, "buy" won > out over "build"? Did you gather requirements and test the options in the > available software, and figure out the optimal solution? Are you a > marketing whiz? Did you sit in negotiations with different companies to see > where they would and would not bend for Mozilla? Do YOU know the condition Mozilla is in? Did YOU gather requirements etc.? Why don't you enlighten us with this info then? > Because you know what? The people who made those decisions ARE experienced, > they are whizzes, and I trust they DID all that. These decisions are NOT > made lightly. Mozilla isn't a cult or some sort of religion. The logic behind their decisions needs to be explained to the community. Can it be explained though? Even now I don't know why this non-transparent non-community based decision was made. To demonstrate how it should have be done, let's compare Pocket(tm) integration with any other "tough" Mozilla decision, for example, extension signing. There were discussions for about half a year (which I was able to participated in), several blog posts explaining why it has to be done, when and how it will be done etc. And that feature isn't even landed yet. But what about Pocket(tm) integration? It just - *pomf* - all of a sudden appeared in our browsers, in nightly and stable versions simultaneously (correct me if I'm wrong) without slightest explanation. And even now there's no explanation. And I doubt there ever will be. That's the problem. Many questions were asked here. For example, why we - Firefox users - were forced to agree with Pocket(tm) ToS[2]: > By installing the Pocket(tm) application, visiting our website or installing > or using any of the Pocket Technologies, you are accepting these terms of > service. Pocket Technology was installed in our browsers, you can't argue with this. There's no way to just delete Pocket(tm) integration from the browser. So the only way to disagree with Pocket(tm) ToS is to delete it's product (i.e. along with Firefox). I can't see any clarification about this matter. And just about any other matter concerning Pocket(tm). And that's a bad sign. > Give it a rest and let the experts handle > their jobs, until they actually give you a concrete reason not to trust > them....all you have now is speculation. This non-transparency is a concrete reason to not trust them. [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/details/ [2] https://getpocket.com/tos _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
