On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 12:39:38 PM UTC+6, Ryan Kelly wrote: > I directly challenged you to explain how the Pocket Terms of Service are > supposedly activated at install time, how they supposedly apply to every > Firefox user regardless of whether they interacted with the Pocket > button at all. You were not able to do so.
> That the Terms themselves appear to claim they're activated at install > time is a nonsensical circular argument, powerless until you actually do > something that would require agreement to the terms in the first place. > 1) Explain exactly where the problem is, so we can fix this incredibly > serious betrayal of our users sovereignty and trust; or I accept the challenge. I will do my best trying to explain this as simple as possible. According to the first paragraph of the Pocket(tm) ToS[1]: > By installing the Pocket(tm) application, visiting our website or installing > or using any of the Pocket Technologies, you are accepting these terms of > service. If you do not agree to these terms, please do not install our > application, access our website or use any of our products or services. It is UNCLEAR whether Pocket(tm) integration in Firefox counts as so-called "Pocket Technologies". We suppose the worst: that is does. Therefore the fact the one's Firefox contains Pocket(tm) integration implies that the one agreed to Pocket(tm) ToS. That's the problem. Was my explanation of one of the problems with Pocket(tm) integrations good enough for you to understand? I think that you, Ryan, acting as a mozillian, are being too aggressive and owe us an apology. I suspect that you didn't even tried to read Pocket(tm) ToS in the first place, because the problem we're talking about is written in THE FIRST PARAGRAPH of that ToS. And it seems to me that you're acting all like "lalala I'm not listening there's no problem you were unable to explain that to me you trolls therefore there's no problem" - as troll, in other words. [1] https://getpocket.com/tos _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
