Greg,

In MS SQL server 2000 you can have up to 16 instances installed on the
one PC.

In essence, and Instance is another SQL Server.

Example:
My computer name is "SERVER", then the default instance (or SQL SERVER)
would be referred to as SERVER when configuring the connection details
in your application. Inside that SQL Instance we can have many
databases.
When one installs Pracsoft, you must have an Instance (2nd SQL Server
installation potentially....I'll qualify that later) called
"SERVER\HCNSYSTEM".
The 3rd installation of SQL server in that PC would be called
"SERVER\<instancename>" whatever you want to call it.
So when configuring your application to talk to an SQL server you would
refer to its Instance. 
Each of them can be stopped and started independently as they are all
individual SQL servers.
Qualifying that statement before, one can install the 1st installation
of SQL server on a PC and call it "SERVER\HCNSYSTEM".

We can have an situation where the default Instance "Server" is SQL 7.0
We can have out 2nd Instance as SQL 2000 Service Pack 2.
We can have our 3rd Instance as SQL 2000 Service Pack 4.

I suspect, but haven't tested it yet, but our 4th Instance could
probably be SQL 2005.

Oracle and other products in the same vein have a similar strategy
available.

I hope that clears it up.

Regards
Barry Lollo  

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Cedric Meyerowitz wrote:
  > Another user made following comments on another forum www.ausgp.com
> 
> "I am of the belief that this was due to the lack of knowledge of the 
> MSDE product by the programmers at HCN. I believe that they falsely 
> understood that there is a 2GB per instance limit on MSDE. This is 
> obviously not the case. There is a 2Gb per database limit, but some 
> 64K databases per instance which equates to a maximum of 64K x 2GB =
128Tb data per MSDE instance.
> 
> I know of other clinical software providers that aren't interested in 
> using MSDE to it's full capacity, with a believe that either the 
> mystical 2GB limit or the concurrency governing restrictions would 
> have a substantial impact on a large practice. I believe that BP's 
> programming shows this to be incorrect as BP seems to be happily 
> running on MSDE in large practices with large databases. "
> 
> As you can see the 2GB limit problem is not a problem.  Hence BP has 
> had no problems in large practices because Frank did his homework and 
> hence is a better programmer.
> 
> It is important that we do not spread this false rumour of the 2GB 
> limit, because we then show users we know as little as the
scaremongers.
> 
> Cedric

Cedric,

That is very interesting information about MSDE. I recall going to the
Microsoft site to research the MSDE versus MS SQL question and coming
away with the sense the '2GB per database' limit for MSDE meant what it
sounded like. This concept of instances is new to me, and from your
quotation seems to nearly equate to tables in a DB, or rows in
spreadsheet.

I'd be interested to know what an 'instance' in a 'database' actually
means in SQL-speak. If it means that a 'database' in the sense I
understand it - in this context all the data one would enter into MD3 -
can be a lot more than 2GB in total - then fine.

It still seems odd that MS would allow a very large DB with very
limiting restrictions on the number of users, in the context of having
MSDE as a teaser for their 'full-sized' product. Maybe the fuzziness
over the 2GB limit has been primarily for the purpose of encouraging
uptake of MS SQL.

Greg
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of General Practice
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