Andrew,
 
You are only convincing me that HCN is in trouble,
you must be bleeding users (to BP I suspect) for you to act in such a legal
sounding manner in this open forum.
Your desperate sales staff calling my clients (repeatedly) trying to
convince them to upgrade to MD3 was what first raised my suspicions.
 
So here's the challange,
Restore those priviliges that have been removed over the years and let some
techs like myself join your forums.
or
go away and stop your hopeless commercial dribble in this forum.
 
Andrew C
Gold Coast.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Andrew Magennis
Sent: Friday, 5 January 2007 7:24 PM
To: General Practice Computing Group Talk
Subject: Re: [GPCG_TALK] New HCN Mailing List Etc



Dear Peter,

You appear to be the only named contact for this new list and so I write to
you to make a few observations which I request that you pass onto the list
"owner".

I have sent this to the GPCG list as this is where this new list seemed to
be launched and I also hope that the readers of this list might also
appreciate the comments.

In the first instance let me say that I have no particular problem with the
creation of a list to talk about any subject.  Open debate, generally
speaking, is healthy and constructive.

However all involved ought to be aware that:

<!--[if !supportLists]-->1.      <!--[endif]-->Any list or website along
these lines where users are led to believe they can say anything and
everything; or where an observer may reasonably believe the site is the
property of another company such as Health Communication Network Limited may
result in "misleading and deceptive conduct" which is a contravention of the
Trade Practices Act.

<!--[if !supportLists]-->2.      <!--[endif]-->The use of registered and/or
unregistered trademarks such as those owned by Health Communication Network
Limited without the express permission of the trademark owner is a violation
of intellectual property law.

<!--[if !supportLists]-->3.      <!--[endif]-->The appearance of the site
and what it purports to be may be "passing off" which is a contravention of
the Trade Practices Act.  This could occur for example if an observer
reasonably believes the site is the property of another company such as
Health Communication Network Limited.

<!--[if !supportLists]-->4.      <!--[endif]-->The attempt to contract out
of "libel" law may itself be misleading and deceptive conduct.  Firstly
"libel" is a USA legal term of no legal relevance in Australia where instead
we refer to "defamation".  Secondly and more importantly whether in the USA
or Australia a person can not contract out of libel or defamation.
Irrespective of your subscription agreement users therefore will be exposed
if guilty of defamation.   Thirdly, a recent case in Australia established
that websites hosted overseas, such as yours, but accessible in Australia
are subject to Australian law.  The particular case was in relation to
defamation.

<!--[if !supportLists]-->5.      <!--[endif]-->Finally, defamation relates
to individuals not corporations.  The relevant law relating to corporations
is referred to as "injurious falsehood" where like defamation anyone found
guilty of same is liable for damages and costs.

I hope you and potential subscribers to the list find this information
useful.

Also, I  would like to encourage users of HCN software to consider that
communications directly to HCN would be a better way to advise of problems
and/or make suggestions for change. HCN has a number of both formal and
informal communication channels and endeavours to use these to provide
assistance to users and respond to constructive feedback. 

Nevertheless, I would hope that should any constructive critique appear on
the lists, that in your, or the list owners belief, would assist HCN's users
or others if they knew of it, that such critique would be forwarded to the
company as a matter of courtesy.

Best regards

Andrew

Dr. Andrew Magennis
M.B.,B.S. B.Sc (Hons) Dip. R.A.C.O.G.
Medical Director
Health Communication Network

Contact
Work Tel: 03 9810 4510
Work Fax: 03 9819 3263
Mobile: 0417 135 302
Home Fax: 03 9882 3251
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: www.hcn.com.au




Peter Machell wrote: 

On 04/01/2007, at 6:18 AM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: 



not that i'm interested, but for some reason it is referring to ozdocit.org 
strongly suggesting that it is hosted on ozdocit.org 



Yes, it's on ozdocit.org so I had some part in setting it up. 

I respected the administrator's request for anonymity, with the condition
that the last word is up to Horst, who may have a different opinion when he
returns from his life. Whilst I don't want to speak for Horst, I don't think
he'll have any problem with this. 

Peter. 
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