Tim, is there a role/need  for developing an open source API for accessing
the HCN databases?
jon
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Jon Patrick
Chair of Language Technology
Australian R&D Centre for Health Informatics
School of Information Technologies
University of Sydney


Quoting Tim Churches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Andrew Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > The benefits of participation would need a social marketing
> campaign.
> > > But GPs agree to participate in the CARDIAB programme, don't
> > > they? I think what I had in mind was a next generation platform
> > > for CARDIAB or something very like it.
> >
> > Tim,
> >
> > Sorry, I wasn't really up on what CARDIAB did so I didn't
> > immediately see the connection..
> >
> > But you are right that it could be used to populate a
> > fair bit of the chronic disease data. I'd still argue that consumers
> > would want a bit more out of a PHR than that. What about
> > an accurate up to date list of _all_ my medications? A record of
> > _all_ my encounters with coded diagnoses? All my PSA results
> > for the last 10 years. I don't think any of this information would
> > be captured in any chronic disease program like CARDIAB (and
> > also - I'm a healthy male - I don't think I'd be enrolled in
> > a program like CARDIAB but I still might be interested in having
> > a PHR).
>
> Yes, a PHR (personal health record) needs to go beyond the CARDIAB data
> items, but they would be a start. Could be a bit more ambitious in the
> first instance, perhaps.
>
> Officially you probably should not be in CARDIAB which is designed for
> high-risk patients but that doesn't mean that your risk of CVD won't be
> reduced even further if you get your BP down from 120/80 to 110/70 and
> your total chol down from 4.9 to 4.2 - there's no magic threshold below
> which no benefit accrues (obviously, only up to a point, as very low BP
> may be a risk factor for other things).
>
> > My GP is the one that has the master copy of
> > all that information - I don't pay them enough to force
> > them to type it in again into my PHR, I don't have the medical
> > experience to enter it in myself accurately, and HCN has no
> > interest in automating the whole process. I don't really see what
> > the driver is that will change any of that..
>
> Re-keying data won't fly. But I thought that key results were already
> being streamed as HL7 messages to CARDIAB via Argus Connect? And if HCN
> won't play ball, then legally there is nothing stopping third parties
> from extracting the data from GP's databases which are contained in HCN
> products (with both GP and individual patient consent, of course). But
> co-operation by HCN and other software vendors would be nicer. I must
> say that the absence of any open plug-in architecture in HCN or any
> other GP clinical information systems is an issue - it stifles
> innovation and trammels many potentially very useful public health and
> preventive medicine programmes.
>
> Tim C
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