Tim Churches wrote:
Andrew Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The benefits of participation would need a social marketing campaign.
But GPs agree to participate in the CARDIAB programme, don't
they? I think what I had in mind was a next generation platform
for CARDIAB or something very like it.

Data quality in practice clinical systems and getting mass conversion of practices to HL7 results, which virtually all path providers now do, but only provide to customers on request are some of the issues with Cardiab. A set of diabetes-related results and INR can now be extracted from HL7 results by MD2 and 3.

Another is that the diabetes record and assessment in both MD2 and MD3 is buggy, which I've reported to HCN support over a year ago. Argus currently works [perfectly] with MD2 via two 5-year old HCN-coded utilities, that don't look like they'll go into MD3. An extraction tool for MD3 that will give the data to Argus for secure transmission is being sought by the Cardiab Alliance.

Re-keying data won't fly. But I thought that key results were already being 
streamed as HL7 messages to CARDIAB via Argus Connect? And if HCN won't play 
ball, then legally there is nothing stopping third parties from extracting the 
data from GP's databases which are contained in HCN products (with both GP and 
individual patient consent, of course). But co-operation by HCN and other 
software vendors would be nicer. I must say that the absence of any open 
plug-in architecture in HCN or any other GP clinical information systems is an 
issue - it stifles innovation and trammels many potentially very useful public 
health and preventive medicine programmes.

Bear in mind that GPs have to be motivated to do this. The diabetes assessment doesn't itself qualify for a payment and the reward for using the diabetes record and assessment in MD2 or 3 is that it fills out the diabetes register and thereby helps practices ensure patients complete the diabetes cycle of care. Then they can get the diabetes incentive for that.

A Cardiab project is a lot of work. We only have a small pilot at present, and an AHS ethics committee approval is necessary, and well as patient consent processes as we are handling identified data. And promotion to GPs to participate.

Greg

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Greg Twyford
Information Management & Technology Program Officer
Canterbury Division of General Practice
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