I personally don’t think lack of a migration tool is a problem. I do think that 
2 format changes in such quick succession is a problem. I am willing to migrate 
occasionally, but then the amount of data we have in GPFS is still small. I do 
value my data, so I'd trust a manual migration using standard tools that have 
been around for a while over a custom migration tool any day. This last format 
change seems fairly major to me, so doubly so in this case. Trying to find a 
plus in this, maybe use it test DR procedures at the same time.

Apologies in advance to those, that simply can't. I hope you get your migration 
tool.

To IBM, thank you for making GPFS faster.

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: gpfsug-discuss-boun...@spectrumscale.org 
[mailto:gpfsug-discuss-boun...@spectrumscale.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Knister
Sent: Monday, 27 November 2017 4:01 AM
To: gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Online data migration tool

With the release of Scale 5.0 it’s no secret that some of the performance 
features of 5.0 require a new disk format and existing filesystems cannot be 
migrated in place to get these features. 

There’s also an issue for long time customers who have had scale since before 
the 4.1 days where filesystems crested prior to I think 4.1 are not 4K aligned 
and thus cannot use 4K sector LUNs to hold metadata. At some point we’re not 
going to be able to buy storage that’s not got 4K sectors. 

In both situations IBM has hamstrung its customer base with large filesystems 
by requiring them to undergo extremely disruptive and expensive filesystem 
migrations to either keep using their filesystem with new hardware or take 
advantage of new features. The expensive part comes from having to purchase new 
storage hardware in order migrate the data. 

My question is this— I know filesystem migration tools are complicated (I 
believe that’s why customers purchase support) but why on earth are there no 
migration tools for these features? How are customers supposed to take the 
product seriously as a platform for long term storage when IBM is so willing to 
break the on disk format and leave customers stuck unable to replacing aging 
storage hardware or leverage new features? What message does this send to 
customers who have had the product on site for over a decade? There is at least 
one open RFE on this issue and has been for some time that has seen no 
movement. That speaks volumes. 

Frankly I’m a little tired of bringing problems to the mailing list, being told 
to open RFEs then having the RFEs denied or just sit there stagnant. 

-Aaron
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