Hi All,

Well, actually a year ago we started the process of doing pretty much what 
Richard describes below … the exception being that we rsync’d data over to the 
new filesystem group by group.  It was no fun but it worked.  And now GPFS (and 
it will always be GPFS … it will never be Spectrum Scale) version 5 is coming 
and there are compelling reasons to want to do the same thing over again … 
despite the pain.

Having said all that, I think it would be interesting to have someone from IBM 
give an explanation of why Apple can migrate millions of devices to a new 
filesystem with 99.999999% of the users never even knowing they did it … but 
IBM can’t provide a way to migrate to a new filesystem “in place.”

And to be fair to IBM, they do ship AIX with root having a password and Apple 
doesn’t, so we all have our strengths and weaknesses!  ;-)

Kevin
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On Nov 29, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Sobey, Richard A 
<r.so...@imperial.ac.uk<mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk>> wrote:

Could we utilise free capacity in the existing filesystem and empty NSDs, 
create a new FS and AFM migrate data in stages? Terribly long winded and 
frought with danger and peril... do not pass go... ah, answered my own question.

😊

Richard

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On Wed, 2017-11-29 at 11:00 -0500, Yugendra Guvvala wrote:
Hi,

I am trying to understand the technical challenges to migrate to GPFS
5.0 from GPFS 4.3. We currently run GPFS 4.3 and i was all exited to
see 5.0 release and hear about some promising features available. But
not sure about complexity involved to migrate.


Oh that's simple. You copy all your data somewhere else (good luck if you 
happen to have a few hundred TB or maybe a PB or more) then reformat your files 
system with the new disk format then restore all your data to your shiny new 
file system.

Over the years there have been a number of these "reformats" to get all the new 
shiny features, which is the cause of the grumbles because it is not funny and 
most people don't have the disk space to just hold another copy of the data, 
and even if they did it is extremely disruptive.

JAB.

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