My perspective is that active contributors to the project should vote. How to 
define them is a more complicated issue and one of the things that prompted the 
long email chain in the PCS IIRC. 

Michael
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Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science
Arizona State University

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> On Jul 25, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Nikos Alexandris <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Dear Michael,
> 
> thank you for this valuable insight, as it clearly comes out of great
> experience.
> 
> 
> Would we, however, consider active community members who use, work and
> contribute time and expertise to document and demonstrate (in the Wiki
> and elsewhere) GRASS-GIS, as project contributors?
> 
> In the case of Veronica Andreo, I think no one disagrees that her work
> and content contribution (in the Wiki for example) are useful and
> exceptionally paradigmatic.  And there are certainly many more active
> members.
> 
> In which case, wouldn't it be fair for such members to be eligible to vote?
> 
> 
> In any case, it is not my intention to reactively cause yet another long
> discussion.  If there are no further discussions on this, especially from PSC
> members, the process will carry on As Is.
> 
> 
> If there are, however notions from current PSC members, for favouring,
> somehow, Veronica Andreo's view, maybe we can at least offer option "ii"
> (please, see my response to Veronica Andreo's e-mail), that is offer
> voting right to community members who ask for it?  It implies that such
> members are active.  Why else should someone ask for voting anyway?
> 
> Thank you, Nikos
> 
> 
> 
> * Michael Barton <[email protected]> [2016-07-25 19:45:04 +0000]:
> 
>> I am concerned that there is a misunderstanding of how the project operates 
>> and what the PSC does here. In brief, it oversees the "project"--that is, 
>> the development and distribution of GRASS software. This project involves a 
>> community of developers who contribute time and expertise to create, 
>> maintain, and distribute GRASS software. Anyone can join this community, but 
>> it is not the same as the much larger group of people who use the software 
>> without contributing to the project. The PSC doesn't really have oversight 
>> over this much larger user community. I would be equally concerned if all 
>> the users of Apache software could decide on who should oversee the Apache 
>> project. My 2 cents.
>> 
>> Michael
>> ____________________
>> C. Michael Barton
>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
>> Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution & Social Change
>> Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science
>> Arizona State University
>> 
>> voice:  480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC)
>> fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC),  480-727-0709 (CSDC)
>> www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:53 AM, Markus Neteler 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> FYI!
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Veronica Andreo" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Date: Jul 25, 2016 7:26 PM
>> Subject: [GRASS-dev] Comment regarding PSC election
>> To: "grass-user" 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, "grass-dev" 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Cc:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I just wanted to make a comment regarding the ongoing PSC election.
>> 
>> I got to know how the whole process works only the past days and I must say 
>> I'm rather disappointed. I was happy to see that also users could vote as 
>> Nikos stated in his first email, but then that info was rectified. I read 
>> the emails of grass-psc discussing the matter and also the wiki.
>> 
>> This is my personal opinion and no more than that, but I just think it is a 
>> bit unfair that for not having svn writing access I'm not able to vote. I 
>> don't understand how, as user, I'm entitled to nominate a person for PSC, 
>> but then, I cannot vote. I mean, there are several people with writing 
>> access that have remained inactive for a long time (no contributions to svn, 
>> no answering emails, no commenting on tickets or whatsoever), and IMHO, 
>> while not a developer, I've been pretty active the past 2-3 years. This is 
>> the first time I don't see/feel the community spirit that I've always 
>> praised GRASS for and that was one of the main reasons why I involved myself 
>> in it and spread the love for the project everywhere I went... and that's 
>> sad from my point of view.
>> 
>> Anyway, sorry to bother with this (maybe) biased opinion/feeling, I just 
>> needed to express it. Perhaps in the future, voting could be optional for 
>> users, dunno...
>> 
>> Thanks so much to all of you for making GRASS GIS the great software it is :)
>> 
>> Best,
>> Vero

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