Thanks for looking at all this, Moritz, and for the explanation, of course :) Asking OSGeo to be fiscal host then seems the way to go
Vero El mié, 17 mar 2021 a las 8:40, Moritz Lennert (< [email protected]>) escribió: > Most foss4g projects are not legal entities, just a bunch of nice people > organizing to create beautiful software. As they are not legal entities > they cannot open a bank account, provide invoices, etc. This is what > fiscal > hosts are for. They are legal entities that allow groups to act like a > legal entity by allowing them to open accounts, etc. For more info: > https://opencollective.com/become-a-host. > <https://opencollective.com/become-a-host.> > > OSGeo is already playing the role of fiscal host for GitHub sponsoring: > https://github.com/sponsors/OSGeo. <https://github.com/sponsors/OSGeo.> > > For our current banking account our fiscal host is OSGeo.eu. > > OSGeo could become a fiscal host at opencollective and so allow all OSGeo > projects to organize sponsoring through there. I'll ask the board. > > Otherwise we could use another fiscal host. Fiscal hosts can ask for a fee > for their services, usually around 5%, but they don't have to. > > Opencollective uses stripe for credit card payments and also allows > payment via PayPal. Those payments generally also come with a small fee, so > a few percent of the money people give is lost on the way. > > Moritz > > Am 16. März 2021 21:35:57 MEZ schrieb Michael Barton < > [email protected]>: >> >> I believe that a 'fiscal host' is a place where you can deposit money and >> keep it until needed or moved to a different local. It could be a bank >> account or other account. >> >> Michael >> _____________________________ >> C. Michael Barton >> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity >> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological >> Sciences >> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems >> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change >> Arizona State University >> Tempe, AZ 85287-2402 >> USA >> >> voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC) >> fax: 480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) >> www: http://shesc.asu.edu, https://complexity.asu.edu, >> http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton >> >> On Mar 16, 2021, at 12:12 PM, Veronica Andreo <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Moritz, >> >> Thanks a lot for this initiative! Open collective seems like a pretty >> cool complement to other existing ways of collecting money. >> >> I was inspecting a bit which other organizations are there, and I found >> many well known companies and NGOs (See for example: >> https://opencollective.com/babel >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://opencollective.com/babel__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!JYQHuCCW-r_wk5ZkIBeP49QU77SHS7hiB50Ncbo81102GGGA-Ce_UmCsrjjKdZlGL5ENBLQ$>). >> Furthermore, it seems it also allows for recurring contributions with >> different categories. >> >> I do not understand the fiscal host part, but as you say maybe OSGeo can >> become a fiscal host. Would you ask them too? >> >> Cheers, >> Vero >> >> El sáb, 13 mar 2021 a las 16:34, Moritz Lennert (< >> [email protected]>) escribió: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> FYI, for our accounting I have created a continuous ledger in >>> https://nextcloud.osgeo.org/ >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nextcloud.osgeo.org/__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!JYQHuCCW-r_wk5ZkIBeP49QU77SHS7hiB50Ncbo81102GGGA-Ce_UmCsrjjKdZlGqAq9PRw$> >>> -> GRASS-PCS -> Accounting and have filled >>> it with all transactions in our PayPal and bank account since 2018. The >>> idea is to use this as our central accounting tool and note all coming >>> transactions in this ledger. This will allow to easily extract annual >>> accounts and follow our current financial situation. >>> >>> >>> As already discussed we should also review the way we collect >>> sponsorship money, for different reasons: >>> >>> - The current PayPal Money pool runs over my personal account which is >>> not very bus-factor resilient. >>> >>> - Venka's experience has shown that from some countries it is not easy >>> to contribute without a PayPal account, e.g. with a credit card. >>> >>> OSGeo uses a Github sponsorship system which we should advertise as >>> people can dedicate their contribution to a specific project. However, >>> AFAIU, the Github sponsorship system is limited to people with a Github >>> account and only allows deciding on a continuous (monthly), not a >>> one-shot donation. >>> >>> In light of this, I would suggest the following for our sponsorship >>> system: >>> >>> - https://opencollective.com/ >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://opencollective.com/__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!JYQHuCCW-r_wk5ZkIBeP49QU77SHS7hiB50Ncbo81102GGGA-Ce_UmCsrjjKdZlGhkvh6nE$> >>> for flexible one-shot, credit-card based >>> sponsorships, including a series of different options and advantages >>> (ex: receipts) for sponsors. How we organize this exactly (via fiscal >>> host) is still to be determined (maybe OSGeo can become a fiscal host >>> for all OSGeo projects ?). >>> >>> - https://github.com/sponsors/OSGeo >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/sponsors/OSGeo__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!JYQHuCCW-r_wk5ZkIBeP49QU77SHS7hiB50Ncbo81102GGGA-Ce_UmCsrjjKdZlGW7mvivA$> >>> for recurring sponsorship. >>> >>> - Our bank account for direct money transfer, mostly within Europe. >>> >>> >>> Does this sound reasonable for everyone ? If yes, I will look into the >>> details of Open Collective and create our system. >>> >>> Moritz >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> grass-psc mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!JYQHuCCW-r_wk5ZkIBeP49QU77SHS7hiB50Ncbo81102GGGA-Ce_UmCsrjjKdZlGnTm0oAE$> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> grass-psc mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!JYQHuCCW-r_wk5ZkIBeP49QU77SHS7hiB50Ncbo81102GGGA-Ce_UmCsrjjKdZlGnTm0oAE$ >> >> >>
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