I think this is a good plan.
Michael
Michael Barton
School of Human Evolution &Social Change
School of Complex Adaptive System Science
Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Arizona State University
...Sent from my iPad
On Apr 29, 2021, at 6:07 PM, Helena Mitasova <hmit...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
I am not sure whether other members of PSC or other GSoC mentors received this
but here is a message from Rajat regarding the potential GSoC mentor
compensation. Feel free to read the entire message below but here is the
important part (note that I was at the board meeting
where this was discussed and the feedback from the board was that osgeo will
give the funds to the participating projects to use as they see fit.)
So if you have ideas about what is the best procedure to receive and distribute
the funds for the GRASS project
please share them here on the PSC list and I will compile them and provide to
Rajat (note that this would be $1200 if we get 3 slots)
As a backup mentor I would vote for all funds going to the main mentor or to
cover some collaborative development activity (in the past
it would have been e.g. travel to code sprint).
Helena
Our decision as administrators is to reach out to the projects’ PSC for your
comments about the following idea.
*
GSoC team will deposit $400 per accepted proposal
*
The project can claim the money and distribute it to the “main” mentors and
“backup” mentors as they see fit.
*
The claim can be done after the GSoC team deposits the stipend to the OSGeo
organization.
This idea has not yet been approved by the board, we need your input to refine
the idea and procedure. Based on your inputs, we will list the possible options
and forward them to the OSGeo board for their comments.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Rajat Shinde <rajatshinde2...@gmail.com<mailto:rajatshinde2...@gmail.com>>
Subject: [GSoC 2021 - Urgent] Feedback Required Regarding Disbursal of GSoC Org
Payments/Mentor Stipend to the Mentors
Date: April 29, 2021 at 3:11:29 PM EDT
To: Helena Mitasova <hmit...@ncsu.edu<mailto:hmit...@ncsu.edu>>
Cc:
"gsoc-adminosgeo.org<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://gsoc-adminosgeo.org__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!OgT2kzOuBmyJ1GgnetiSxDtubr0s6L4LhpzRnknM4KCb7dxmRTEyCgB9L9BxZXvKl9LG0gE$>"
<gsoc-ad...@osgeo.org<mailto:gsoc-ad...@osgeo.org>>, Rahul Chauhan
<rahulnit...@gmail.com<mailto:rahulnit...@gmail.com>>
Dear Prof. Mitasova,
Greetings!
I am sending this email with regards to the Google Summer of Code (GSoC) 2021
stipend for mentors. This is OSGeo’s 15th year participating in the GSoC 2021
and GRASS GIS is one of the participating projects under the OSGeo umbrella
organization. Also, this is our second year working as OSGeo-GSoC
administrators team, and since last year it came to our attention that mentors
were not getting remuneration for their work. We feel that this is very
unfortunate and lacks incentive for the mentors to continue mentoring.
Moreover, mentoring for GSoC is a full-time commitment and requires a lot of
effort (which might vary depending on the coding and administration mentoring).
In this regard, I had a meeting with the board on April 26 [1] and it was clear
to me that the GSoC program does make a deposit to OSGeo. Citing below from the
website for reference:
[1]
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2021-04-26#Google_Summer_of_Code_organization_payment_discussion<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2021-04-26*Google_Summer_of_Code_organization_payment_discussion__;Iw!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!OgT2kzOuBmyJ1GgnetiSxDtubr0s6L4LhpzRnknM4KCb7dxmRTEyCgB9L9BxZXvKeXr0IfY$>
“$400 per student developer for your organization (often called the mentor
stipend) though the money does not generally go to the actual mentor. One
payment is sent to the org, and if the org wishes to disburse the funds to
their mentors they are welcome to do that on their own.” [2]
[2]
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/help/org-payments#i_included_in_your_payment<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/help/org-payments*i_included_in_your_payment__;Iw!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!OgT2kzOuBmyJ1GgnetiSxDtubr0s6L4LhpzRnknM4KCb7dxmRTEyCgB9L9BxZXvK4IlUhP4$>
During the meeting I mentioned the following facts:
*
Accepted proposals are required to have at least 2 mentors and one of them is
the “main” mentor
*
It is strongly recommended to have 3 mentors
*
The additional mentors are “backup” mentors
*
A mentor can not mentor more than 2 proposals
*
A mentor can not be the “main” mentor of 2 or more proposals
*
Having mentioned that the number of projects participating in the OSGeo-GSoC
program has been decreasing, as a comparison:
*
20 proposals in 12 projects in 2016
(https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2016_Accepted<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2016_Accepted__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!OgT2kzOuBmyJ1GgnetiSxDtubr0s6L4LhpzRnknM4KCb7dxmRTEyCgB9L9BxZXvKTLVJO-g$>)
*
13 proposals in 8 projects in 2017
(https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2017_Accepted<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2017_Accepted__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!OgT2kzOuBmyJ1GgnetiSxDtubr0s6L4LhpzRnknM4KCb7dxmRTEyCgB9L9BxZXvKT3aOjEg$>)
*
10 proposals in 8 projects in 2018
(https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2018_Accepted<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2018_Accepted__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!OgT2kzOuBmyJ1GgnetiSxDtubr0s6L4LhpzRnknM4KCb7dxmRTEyCgB9L9BxZXvK53sfvj4$>)
*
7 proposals in 4 projects in 2019
(https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2019_Accepted<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2019_Accepted__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!OgT2kzOuBmyJ1GgnetiSxDtubr0s6L4LhpzRnknM4KCb7dxmRTEyCgB9L9BxZXvKDQG4IEo$>)
*
10 proposals in 6 projects in 2020
(https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2020_Accepted<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2020_Accepted__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!OgT2kzOuBmyJ1GgnetiSxDtubr0s6L4LhpzRnknM4KCb7dxmRTEyCgB9L9BxZXvKi9bvTIA$>)
*
A successful ex GSoC student can act as a mentor in the project he/she
participated in, but they are choosing other alternatives for summer that have
a remuneration or incentive.
*
Projects organize the actual activities of the mentors as they see fit, some
projects have specialized coding mentors who are normally project committers
and the administrative mentors, that review the administrative part of the
students.
After talking with the board of directors, it was suggested to talk with the
mentors or projects about the distribution of the stipend.
Our decision as administrators is to reach out to the projects’ PSC for your
comments about the following idea.
*
GSoC team will deposit $400 per accepted proposal
*
The project can claim the money and distribute it to the “main” mentors and
“backup” mentors as they see fit.
*
The claim can be done after the GSoC team deposits the stipend to the OSGeo
organization.
This idea has not yet been approved by the board, we need your input to refine
the idea and procedure. Based on your inputs, we will list the possible options
and forward them to the OSGeo board for their comments.
Please forward the email to the corresponding PSC or equivalent of your
project, and give us an answer as soon as possible, so that we can forward it
to the OSGeo board for approval. It would be amazing if we could get the
responses before the GSoC slot submission deadline i.e. May 3rd, 2021.
Kind regards
Rajat Shinde and Rahul Chauhan
OSGeo-GSoC Administration Team
URL:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2021_Administrative<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2021_Administrative__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!OgT2kzOuBmyJ1GgnetiSxDtubr0s6L4LhpzRnknM4KCb7dxmRTEyCgB9L9BxZXvKTTUlo58$>
Helena Mitasova
Professor at the Department of Marine,
Earth, and Atmospheric Sciences
Associate director and faculty fellow at the Center for Geospatial Analytics
North Carolina State University
Raleigh, NC 27695-8208
hmit...@ncsu.edu<mailto:hmit...@ncsu.edu>
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