Arunima G wrote: > As a list owner i have to remind you this is not a list to discuss > "everything from activism to intellectual life" . It is clearly stated > on groups front page (http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth). This > is specifically an activist support list for kerala. > > > Anivar > > > Good - glad to have had that clarified once and for all.
Clarified? It is there on the group home page for Past 3.5 years. > Since I don't believe in easy dichotomies, or that activism is bereft > of intellect, or indeed intellection, or that struggles are conducted > without thought, or that "the people's" issues only relate to narrow > definitions of livelihood, divorced from ideas (thereby assuming > that"the people" don't think, and just act) It is Fun to see the how your thinking goes. It is too pathetic Arunima. You are still in the binaries of activism & intellectual life. But your comment was "everything from activism to intellectual life" . "Activist support list" cant include everything. Support is the main point here. It can be in various ways. your contributed to the discussion is also a way as awareness building on dalit issues through ranjit's forwards. > I can see that this debate has no place for me. Sad to see this. Your posts are certainly important for the list . i request you to reanalyze before taking a decision on it > Good luck with the resolution of the Malayali crisis about > moderation/censorship - as the list "owner", I am sure you have a > certain proprietorial interest in that issue. List Owner is a term provided by google group. It is the person who started the list "proprietorial interest" is the new term coming up. it is the reason for starting this space & spending my time and energy. i expected something better from you. This one sounds not much different from the bashing language of padom group ( M.N Vijayan & team) on CPIM group war. mukundanunni contacted me offlist for the explanation on "malayali's misunderstanding of moderation with censorship". The reply i have given is posted below. You can find my "proprietorial interest" in the issue. mukundan unni wrote: > Dear Anivar, > > "Here issue is malayali's misunderstanding of moderation with censorship." Quoted from your post. Is there such a universal as "malayali's misunderstanding of moderation with censorship?" > Dear Mukandanunni, happy to see you here. I meant it at least in online spaces. This is not only the first time i am watching this kind of a tendency in Kerala related cyber spaces. I am closely watching kerala related cyber spaces from 1999 onwards as a part of my interest in cybercultures. I am also in a lot of other lists (more than 100). But I am finding the misrepresentation of moderation witch censorship only in kerala related cyber spaces. I am noticing the first of such experience in 2001 at kerala-thoughts mailing list. from that onwards moderation in online spaces created a lot of protests, splits, new-group formation etc. at lest 30-50 incidents i can report . but there is no other response. Porn or erotic story sharing communities of keralites also looks identical in this habbit. it may be related malayali Psyche after Emergency & 70's . Censorship is not at all possible in online space and i am strongly against any effort to implement it. It is not the first list i'm moderating. the some groups i moderated include, Bloggers collective: a group for the bloggers protest on blog ban& censorship by Indian govt, South asian Tsunami Blog Discussion group, various free software lists etc. In greenyouth we are experimenting about reducing the level of moderation by trusting people. Even though greenyouth creates maximum amount of protest. this is not the first time moderation is used on the list. But every time as always in mallucyberspace protests are coming up. every act that leaded to moderation becomes legible by the protest to moderation (they will call it censorship now) Moderation becomes a must needed thing for online community because of following reasons. 1. Increasing amount of spammers who targets groups as easy targets. (see yahoogroups which are not active with a lot of members) 2. On Topic & Off topic for a discussion( it is similar to real world moderation in Discussions) 3. for familiarizing with list habits. For every community language of compassion need to be evolved by keeping our differences in political process. my observation may be right or wrong. but i believe on this assumption Anivar -- "We are living through a movement from an organic industrial society to a polymorphous information system - from all work to all play, a deadly game." Donna Haraway, The Cyborg Manifesto --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
