'cold response' sounds like an allegation. before also some members came up
and did the same about the cold response on dalit related mails.
do u think silence is always condemnable?


On 5/1/08, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I was mentioning about our cold response to this report... Did we take it
> as a serious matter? I worry, we didn't
>
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 1:19 PM, salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> afthab,
>> u mean the report of mass grave at uri area in kashmir is wrong? or the
>> civil society responses and actions to it?
>> what is wrong if the reporting and the actions done in the name of indian
>> democracy?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/1/08, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is quite odd... Why Kashmir is excluded from our consciousness? I
>>> would like to believe that this report is not true... But if it is, this is
>>> done in the name of Indian democracy, that we are responsible for...
>>> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Anivar Aravind <
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: *Khurram Parvez* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>>>>
>>>> ASSOCIATION OF PARENTS OF DISAPPEARED PERSONS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   _Press Release_
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> / /*/28^th April 2008/*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is exactly one month after we released a report of a fact finding
>>>> mission on nameless graves and mass graves in Uri area titled 'Facts
>>>> Under Ground' which evoked response from the media, human rights groups,
>>>> politicians and political formations of various hues, civil society and
>>>> people at large.
>>>>
>>>>             We want to utilize this occasion to appreciate, thank and
>>>> criticize the concerned on their response; and to make requests and
>>>> demands for fresh, comprehensive and sustained responses from the stake
>>>> holders i.e. the local and international civil society and HR Groups,
>>>> Political formations and resistance Groups, local and international
>>>> media, lawyers' groups, international humanitarian agencies and people.
>>>>
>>>> First of all we appreciate the local print media for the coverage given
>>>> to the report. We urge for a sustained campaign of follow up reporting
>>>> to build a more compelling case for urgent international expert and
>>>> humanitarian intervention in order to initiate credible measures to
>>>> establish the identity of those buried in these graves and seek linkages
>>>> with the thousands subjected to Enforced Disappearance by the state
>>>> security agencies in Kashmir from 1989 till date. The families of the
>>>> disappeared have neither the resources nor the expertise to carry out
>>>> either the job of comprehensive reporting or the task of scientific
>>>> exhumation and identification of those buried in these nameless graves
>>>> and mass graves.
>>>>
>>>> We have received more reports of the existence of mass graves and
>>>> nameless graves, some of which has already been reported by a section of
>>>> the local press. We expect people and the media to be more proactive in
>>>> reporting about the existence of such graves with all the available
>>>> detail and local narratives about them. This will bring their existence
>>>> into public knowledge and thereby help in safeguarding the grave sites
>>>> from tampering. We request the people to take all steps necessary to
>>>> safeguard these sites from any kind of interference till such time as we
>>>> are able to garner the support and intervention of internationally
>>>> credible expert and humanitarian bodies to undertake a thorough exercise
>>>> of identifying these bodies. We believe some of those subjected to
>>>> enforced disappearance are buried in these graves and the process of
>>>> identification, that we are demanding, will provide some relief to the
>>>> families whose kin have disappeared, will enable a decent burial of the
>>>> victims and contribute to producing the necessary evidence against the
>>>> perpetrators thus help in breaking the culture of impunity enjoyed by
>>>> the state security agencies. It is the moral and humanitarian duty of
>>>> the local people to do whatever is possible to safeguard these sites and
>>>> the bounden duty of the local media persons to take extra pains to
>>>> unearth these skeletons and ferret out the truth in all its ugly detail.
>>>>
>>>> We expect the local lawyer community to take up the issue in the
>>>> relevant forums, file PIL and undertake a legal campaign to force the
>>>> Government and its security agencies to come out with verifiable truth
>>>> and fix responsibility for these crimes as it is the government and its
>>>> security agencies who are the ultimate repositories of information about
>>>> these graves and also about those disappeared involuntarily while in
>>>> their custody.
>>>>
>>>>             We impress upon the local political formations of all hues
>>>> to encourage people to provide more information about these and other
>>>> grave sites and to take necessary measures to safeguard these sites from
>>>> tampering or interference considering them as an extremely sensitive and
>>>> a sacred trust with them.
>>>>
>>>>             We express our satisfaction at the issue of comprehensive
>>>> statements by various humanitarian groups particularly the Amnesty
>>>> International and the Asian Federation Against Involuntary
>>>> Disappearances (AFAD) demanding that India should investigate all
>>>> allegations of enforced disappearances in Jammu & Kashmir following
>>>> reports of mass graves.
>>>>
>>>>             We expect the international humanitarian bodies particularly
>>>> the Amnesty International and AFAD to initiate steps toward
>>>> implementation of their demands by lobbying with the relevant credible
>>>> international bodies.
>>>>
>>>>             We also urge the ICRC, which is operating in Kashmir to
>>>> volunteer their expertise on this issue.
>>>>
>>>>             We understand the callous attitude of the state security
>>>> agencies in dismissing our findings as a result of their direct
>>>> involvement in these crimes as is borne out by the various fake
>>>> encounters and custodial killings documented and reported extensively.
>>>> We believe that this callous and inhuman attitude of the security
>>>> agencies springs from the culture of impunity produced as a result of
>>>> the draconian laws operating in Jammu and Kashmir, which do not allow
>>>> the families of the victims to pursue their cases productively.
>>>>
>>>>             We believe that this report should be a cause of alarm for
>>>> those with a human heart and a concrete basis for the international
>>>> expert groups and humanitarian and human rights bodies for initiating an
>>>> urgent action to probe the matter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Spokesperson
>>>>
>>>> Ghulam Nabi Mir
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> >>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Afthab Ellath

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