Is it your contention that because you are a "libertarian"- whatever that
might mean to you, that your views are objective -
just to remind you that despite your confessed ignorance of constitution,
you still use it to counter Puniyani et al
if the consequences of BJP kind of propaganda is denial of basic fundamental
human rights to any community, I'd rather have clouded judgements about such
an institution and go by Puniyani et al's arguments
btw - you are yet to post a single coherent argument on why Puniyani et al
are wrong and you are right in your reading of aparticular community
On 20/05/2008, Murali K Warier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear Bobby,
> Thanks for the comments on the Constitution. Let me confess that not
> being a lawyer or not having studied law even as a hobby, my knowledge in
> these matters are very inferior.
> I being a libertarian, believe in the dictum that consequences matter
> more than intentions. Puniyani et al., may have good intentions. But don't
> forget that Communism too had good, in fact noble intentions.
> The problem I find with the concerned citizens' message is that, as
> far as I can see, they have allowed their hatred for Hindutva to cloud their
> judgment. As evidenced by the way Puniyani construed the plain fact
> statement that 'Islamic jihadis are more likely to be found among Muslims'
> as targeting the Muslim community itself ('all Muslims are terrorists'). And
> look at the political posturing by insinuating that the BJP may be involved.
> This is especially unfortunate after they make this statement in the
> beginning: 'The unfortunate part is that prevention of these acts has been
> politicized by some political parties.' Then they go on to politicize the
> whole thing. Posting the message in the IHRO forum has considerably eroded
> their credibility in my eyes, further.
> Let me make it clear that I don't hold any brief for the BJP, as you
> could see. The crucial difference between me and a lot of people here is
> that I do not allow my judgment to be clouded by my antipathy for the
> Hindutva party. If you have already concluded that the BJP is the only
> problem facing this country, then none of these arguments are going to have
> any effect.
>
> Best regards,
> Murali
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Murali
>> I am very happy about your belief in constitutional methods. But FYI, our
>> the Constitution is almost a replica of the 1935 Govt of India Act, that
>> most of the people demanding the ouster of the British except for the
>> crucial Fundamental Rights and DPSP chapters. As a lawyer, as far as I know,
>> there is no mention in the Fundamental Rights Chapter that "terrorist" would
>> not have benefits of the rights guaranteed under that chapter, or Muslims
>> are all to be branded terrorists
>> All that Puniyani and Engineer are asking for post-Jaipur blasts is that
>> the actions of the powers that be - be in consonance with this crucial
>> chapter of the Constitution
>> At the risk of being brash, I do not think you really believe in the
>> Constitution if you are playing up to the BJP kind of gallery (which has
>> also defamed Ambedkar ref: *"Worshipping False Gods" *by Arun Shourie).
>> Best
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
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> Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't
> want to hear.
>
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Bobby Kunhu
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