Sorry for the long post...I thought it will be better to go through some
historical events related to terrorism related laws in India to validate Mr
Murali's arguments..

The major part of this post is extracted from the report of *"The Committee
on International Human Rights"*.. (2007 Volume 62, No: 2). Readers seeking
greater detail and more complete citations should refer to the unabridged
version, which is available on the Association's website and in the Columbia
Journal of Asian Law. See Anil Kalhan, et al., Colonial Continuities: Human
Rights, Terrorism, and Security Laws in India, 20 COLUM. J. ASIAN L. 93
(2006), available at http://www.nycbar.org/pdf/ABCNY_India_Report.pdf )

1. The case of Dr Binayak Sen doesn't need much elaboration... He is in
pretrial custody with the provision of Chattisgarh State Public Security
Act  for the last one year.. The state manipulation is nothing smaller than
frightening and we have seen how much ineffective the courts (including
Supreme court) in ending this violence2. 2.

2. Ajay TG's case revealed has shown us how a person suspected and nearly
tortured by a Naxallite group can be hunted by the state machine using same
"guilt by association"  by the same law..

3. Kangleipal Meitei's case in Manipur is again indicative of the existing
draconian laws(after TADA, POTA, etc.)  like National Security act , which
can be used to hunt even human rights activists...The NSA authorizes
preventive detention for up to 12 months, and both the permissible grounds
to order preventive detention and the procedural requirements under the NSA
are essentially the same as under the notorious MISA..The government also
amended the NSA in early 1984 to permit it to be used more aggressively in
Punjab

4. There are several other laws like Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act of
1967, which are not widely discussed, used to target political opponents,
human rights defenders, religious minorities, Dalits  and other "lower
caste" individuals, tribal communities, the landless, and other poor and
disadvantaged people..

5. Police matters are governed primarily by the Police Act of 1861, which
self-consciously followed the paramilitary
model of policing that the British had established in Ireland.

6. Most notably, the Anarchical and Revolutionary Crimes Act of 1919, also
known as the "Rowlatt Act," extended many of the government's draconian
wartime powers into peacetime.Both the substantive provisions of the Rowlatt
Act and the circumstances surrounding its enactment and ultimate lapse three
years later foreshadowed issues that have arisen in recent years under TADA
and POTA

7. Procedural rules under TADA departed from ordinary rules of evidence and
criminal procedure. While ordinary law precludes admissibility of any
confessions made to police officers, TADA provided instead that confessions
to police officers could be admitted as substantive evidence as long as the
officer's rank was sufficiently high; the confession was recorded; and the
confession was "voluntary"

8. Considerable evidence suggests that in its application, TADA's sweeping
powers were predominantly used not to prosecute and punish actual
terrorists, but rather as a tool that enabled pervasive use of preventive
detention and a variety of abuses by the police, including extortion and
torture. *For example, of the 67,507 individuals detained under TADA as of
August1994, 19,263 of them were in Gujarat—more than in Punjab, and in a
state without any significant terrorism problem.*

9. Large numbers of individuals were detained under TADA, but only a
miniscule fraction of them were ultimately convicted of anything. *Statistics
reported by the government in October 1993 showed that only 0.81 percent of
the 52,268 individual detained under TADA since its enactment had been
convicted. In Punjab, the conviction rate was even lower: only 0.37 percent
of the 14,557 individuals detained under TADA in Punjab were convicted. In
August 1994 the Minister of State for Home Affairs reported that of the
67,059 individuals reported to have been detained under TADA since its
enactment, only 8,000 individuals had been tried, of whom 725 individuals
were convicted.81 For individuals arrested under ordinary criminal laws, by
contrast, the conviction rate in 1991 was 47.8 percent.* Despite this low
conviction rate almost all the victims had to pay heavily during their
extended period of unlawful detention..Violations of the rights to be free
from torture, cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment, and
compelled self-incrimination

10. Despite TADA's lapse IN 1995, the law has cast a long shadow. *Cases
initiated while TADA was in force were not automatically dismissed, and even
today the central and state governments still have authority to institute
new cases based on allegations arising from the period when TADA was in
effect. As of 1996, over 14,000 TADA cases were pending, and by 1999, almost
5,000 trials under TADA remained to be completed and over 1,300 cases were
still being investigated*.As under TADA, the substantive bail standard under
POTA presents a
nearly insurmountable burden. If the prosecutor opposes bail, then for one
year the court only may release the accused if there are reasonable grounds
to believe that the accused is not guilty of the alleged offense and not
likely to commit any offense while on bail

11. As with TADA, the Supreme Court upheld POTA's provisions authorizing
confessions to police officers against constitutional challenge.114 While
POTA is silent on whether confessions obtained under these provisions may be
used to prosecute non-POTA offenses, whether charged together with the POTA
violation or in a separate prosecution, the Supreme Court resolved a similar
ambiguity under TADA in favor of permitting such confessions
to be admitted in non-TADA offenses

12. While neither the Constitution nor international law per se requires the
preclusion of voluntary confessions to the
police, advocates have raised concerns that given the extensive,
longstanding, and widely acknowledged problems in India with police torture
and other violations of fundamental rights, relaxing the traditional rule
increases the likelihood of torture, coerced confessions, and other abuses
in violation of international human rights norms

13.The modified procedural rules governing cases before the special courts
are essentially the same that applied before TADA's "designated courts."
POTA affords the special courts discretion to conduct proceedings wherever
they deem "expedient or desirable," including potentially prejudicial or
intimidating locations such as the prison facility where the accused is
detained. Upon an application by the prosecutor or a witness, or on its own
motion, the court may conduct its proceedings in camera or take other steps
to keep the witnesses' identities secret so long as it records its reasons
in writing. The court also may try the accused in absentia and record the
evidence of witnesses, subject to the right of the accused to recall
witnesses for cross-examination.

14. In at least two states, Jharkhand and Andhra Pradesh, POTA has been
widely used against individuals from Dalit, other lower caste, and tribal
communities who ostensibly have been suspected of involvement with suspected
insurgents, but who in fact appear to have been innocent of any terrorist
involvement or, in many cases, even of any criminal wrongdoing at all.Like
many Indian states, both states suffer from severe in-equality between
semi-feudal "upper caste" interests and Dalit, other lower caste, and tribal
communities

15. Police and other security forces have frequently violated the human
rights of people from Dalit, other lower
caste, and tribal communities in the name of their efforts to combat the
Naxalites, raiding villages and engaging in extortion, looting, and arrests
of individuals falsely accused of harboring Naxalites. The police also have
frequently staged "false encounter" killings, shooting unnamed prisoners and
sometimes photographing the corpses alongside planted weapons. At the same
time, police and other officials not only have failed to prosecute the
private militias of upper caste landlords, leaving them to engage in
violence with impunity, but also at times have directly colluded with
them—for example, by disrupting peasant organizing, training private
militias, and accompanying militias during their raids on Dalit, other lower
caste, and tribal villages

16. The use of POTA in Jharkhand was the object of sustained examination in
early 2003 by a factfinding team
of advocates from across the country and the news media. *The team found
that approximately 3,200 individuals had been accused under POTA within the
state as of February 2003—far more than in any other state in the country,
including states with much higher incidences of terrorism such as Jammu and
Kashmir*.Approximately 202 individuals had been arrested, including
approximately ten minors; most of those arrested were farmers, students, or
day laborers

17. In Andhra Pradesh, *POTA was not invoked at all in the first year after
its enactment, but after that, approximately 50 cases were initiated,
allegedly involving between 300 and 400 individuals as of March 2004*. Many
of the individuals charged appear not to have been involved in any criminal
activity at all, but rather have been targeted simply for their caste or
tribal status alone. In other cases, the allegations against these Dalit,
other lower caste, and tribal individuals under POTA appear to bear little
relationship to terrorist or insurgent violence. Indeed, in Andhra Pradesh,
the sheer* number of individuals killed in police "encounters"—approximately
1,200 individuals between 1996 and 2004*—casts doubt on the notion that the
police have resorted to legal mechanisms, rather than counterinsurgency
operations and encounter killings, to any significant degree at all when
targeting suspected Naxalites.

18. In this context, *POTA has been wielded as a communalist instrument in
several states. Hundreds of Muslims have been formally arrested or illegally
detained for extensive periods in connection with cases pending under POTA*.
I*n the immediate aftermath of the violence, the state government filed POTO
charges against as many as 62 Muslims, including at least seven boys below
the age of sixteen, who it accused of involvement with the Godhra fire, and
illegally detained as many as 400 others without charge.While the POTO
charges were quickly withdrawn in the face of sharp public criticism,
ordinary criminal charges remained in place against these individuals, and
approximately one year later the government retroactively filed charges
under POTA against 121 individuals suspected of involvement in the Godhra
incident.

*19. *Despite the disproportionately high number of Muslim victims in the
post-Godhra violence, no Hindus responsible for the post-Godhra violence
have been charged under POTA at all*—even though POTA's broad and malleable
definition of terrorism could have been applied to much of that anti-Muslim
violence—and few have been charged under ordinary criminal law. the Gujarat
police often have not simply applied POTA selectively
against Muslims, but also have used the law to intimidate Muslim citizens
from coming forward with evidence of police complicity in the organized
post-Godhra violence. It has been reported that the police have unlawfully
detained hundreds of young Muslims and threatened them with false charges
under POTA if they did come forward. Indeed, after one key witness to a
post-Godhra massacre came forward, not only did the state fail to bring
charges against the perpetrators of that massacre, but they charged the
witness himself under POTA. In this context, as one
community leader put it, POTA became "a sword hanging over every Muslim in
Gujarat."

20.* By March 2004, over 280 individuals had been charged under POTA in
Gujarat, all but one of whom were Muslim.(the remaining one was a Sikh) ..
These charges resulted in the detention of at least 189 individuals, the
vast majority of whom were denied bail. *POTA also has been used in Andhra
Pradesh to target Muslims accused of terrorism in Gujarat and other parts of
the country. While the Andhra Pradesh police, based on their own
investigations, have questioned the extent to which local residents have
been involved in terrorism, at least
*30 people from Andhra Pradesh have been arrested and transferred to Gujarat
in connection with some of the POTA* conspiracies alleged in that state*
*
21. In Gujarat, the police have threatened Muslims with charges under POTA
in some instances simply to intimidate them from coming forward with
information concerning police complicity with the post-Godhra violence

22. *In Jharkhand, POTA charges were brought against a 17- year-old young
woman, Ropni Kharia, the only woman in her village to pass matriculation.
The charges were brought in apparent retaliation for her resistance to
patriarchal norms in her village and her work educating and encouraging
others to do the same*; complaints were brought to the police about her
supposed involvement with a banned organization by men in the community who
were "worried about her knowledge and activities." Despite no evidence
linking her to the organization, the police intimidated and beat her father
and other family members and ultimately filed POTA charges against her

23. In several states, POTA charges have been filed against other youths
below age eighteen, including some as young as ten. In some cases, these
charges were brought to intimidate or retaliate against parents who were
the real subjects of interest.

24. In Gujarat, the police have detained and taken many individuals into
custody—in some cases for days or weeks—in connection with pending POTA
investigations without formally arresting them, disclosing the basis for
detention, or even documenting their custody or interrogation

25. *When the individuals sought by the police have not been available, the
police have instead often taken family members (including minor children and
elderly parents) into custody essentially as "hostages,*" to induce the
individuals of interest to submit to police custody. This practice appears
to have been particularly common in Gujarat, but individuals have been
detained on similar bases in other states

26. Considerable evidence also suggests that individuals detained under POTA
have been tortured and subjected to cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment
while in custody. These reports are consistent with the longstanding and
well-documented concern that even in cases unrelated to allegations of
terrorism, police in India routinely resort to torture, which has been
described as the "principal forensic tool" of the Indian police

27. *Reports of torture have been documented throughout India, and have been
particularly severe in connection with the POTA cases pending in
Gujarat. *Although
individuals have feared retaliation for coming forward with allegations
against the police, examples of torture and cruel, inhuman, and degrading
treatment have been extensively documented, including *severe beatings, use
of narcoanalysis or "truth serum," use of electric shocks to the genitals
and other parts of the body, and various forms of psychological abuse.*

28. In every state which the project participants visited, evidence suggests
that the police have often coerced detainees (or in some cases their family
members) to sign blank sheets of paper, which later could be filled by the
police with a statement confessing or implicating someone else. Some have
been forced to read statements while being audiorecorded or to memorize
false statements to be recited later before a magistrate. Detainees also
have been forced to cooperate in the creation of fabricated evidence, such
as videos of the accused holding weapons in poses directed by the police. If
detainees refused to cooperate, the police have threatened further detention
or
mistreatment of the detainees or their family members—and even have
threatened that the detainees or their family members might be killed in
staged encounters

29. When detainees have appeared before magistrates, the magistrates have
not always scrutinized the circumstances of the individuals' arrest and
detention closely.In one instance, a magistrate ordered the police to take a
detainee who had been severely tortured to the hospital, but the police
ignored that order and returned him to the jail without consequence. I*n
other instances, magistrates have been complicit in the mistreatment, either
directly intimidating detainees into confessing or, in at least one case,
all but explicitly giving the police the green light to torture detainees
further to obtain their confession*

30. Many individuals have been detained under POTA throughout the six month
period within which the police may conduct its investigation and then simply
released without charge upon the deadline for filing a charge sheet. For
individuals who ultimately have been charged, examples of prolonged
detention without bail beyond the six month period have been found
throughout the country.

31. Among those individuals formally arrested in Gujarat under POTA, a large
number have been refused bail, even after becoming eligible for the normal
bail standard after one year in jail. As of August 2004, 172 individuals
charged under POTA were in jail, while only 17 had been released on bail. In
other states, the percentages of POTA defendants released on bail also have
been low. For example, as of August 2004, only 11 of the 88 POTA accused in
Maharashtra, 5 of the 36 POTA accused in Andhra Pradesh, 1 of the 29 POTA
accused in Uttar Pradesh, and none of the 48 POTA accused in Delhi had been
released on bail

32. In Gujarat, where very few individuals accused under POTA have been
released, a police official admitted that POTA in part had been used against
the Godhra accused "to forestall the possibility of more of the accused
obtaining bail," as would have been possible under ordinary criminal laws.

33 Today the judiciary is under extreme tension to deal with any POTA case.
In fact, our bail applications went before at least three Division Benches
[of the Madras High Court]. Each Division Bench excused itself from hearing
the case. They thought hearing the case also amounted to supporting POTA or
POTA detenues

34. There also has been evidence of threats and intimidation against lawyers
and human rights defenders who have sought to document human rights
violations under POTA and defend individuals who have been detained or
charged under the law. Under the U.N. Basic Principles on the Role of
Lawyers, states have an obligation to ensure lawyers are able to perform
their professional roles free from intimidation or other improper
interference and to "adequately safeguard[]" them when their security is
threatened.

35. While lawyers with whom the project participants met disagreed on the
extent to which they or their colleagues have been threatened or abused, in
Gujarat, in particular, several lawyers agreed with the assessment of one
human rights organization that "*harassment and intimidation of human rights
defenders working with members of the Muslim community in the state appears
to be widespread.*"

36. *Muslims accused in the Godhra case have faced threats and intimidation
for doing so, and Muslim lawyers in Gujarat have largely withdrawn
altogether from representing individuals accused under POTA because of these
threats*. Intimidation and pressure also has come from other lawyers. In
Gujarat, a resolution considered by one of the lower court bar associations
strongly discouraged attorneys from representing any Muslims charged in the
Godhra case. As a result of these formal and informal pressures, the same
small handful of lawyers—including lawyers from outside the state
altogether—have tended to represent almost all of individuals accused under
POTA in Gujarat.

37.Similarly, in the prosecution under POTA of four individuals charged with
involvement in the 2001 attack on the Indian Parliament building— the first
major prosecution under POTA—many lawyers were initially reluctant to
represent the defendants at all, out of an unwillingness to be associated
with the case. While an All-India Defense Committee to support one
defendant, S.A.R. Geelani, ultimately drew support from many prominent
Indian citizens, the level of intimidation and prejudicial media coverage
associated with the case was very high. Indeed,* Geelani, who was acquitted
by the Delhi High Court, was shot and seriously injured in February 2005
outside his lawyer's home and office, as he arrived to meet with her to
discuss the government's then-pending appeal of his acquittal to the Supreme
Court of India*.


On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 10:04 PM, salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> when the constitution is found insufficient to accomodate the new claims
> of the unrecognized sections of people for their rights and spaces, it is
> forced to be amended. penal codes have to revoked to recognize the existence
> of third sex.
>
> when the people are deprived of limited constitutional rights by violent
> acts like aFspa, setting up gunatanamo bay beside the book of constitution
> and long cruel years of invalidating adivasi land restoration act, seeking
> constitutional protection is a matter of survival.
>
> complete belief in constitution and imagination of a flawless execution of
> it have nothing to do with the rights of the people. it is through people's
> aspirations and struggles new political spaces and freedom come up to amend
> and amend the constitutions and to question the supremacy of the state.
>
> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Murali K Warier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> > it is quite natural for the people who are socially, racially,
>> politically and economically enjoying the rights within theconstitutional 
>> framework to uphold the 'holiness' of the constitution.
>>
>> Isn't it obvious that the socially, racially, politically and economically
>> disadvantaged require the protections offered by the Constitution more than
>> the well off?
>> That should have been a no-brainer.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Murali.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 4:13 PM, salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't
>> want to hear.
>>
>
>
> >
>

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