The question of sound pollution applies to all sounds, whether from vehicles or factories or temples.And no one spoke here of a public space without religions.If so I would not have begun with a quote from a mystic. Clearly there are prejudices at work here. I happily withdraw.Look at things from below.
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:56:55 +0300From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [GreenYouth] Re: sound pollution hi is sound from factory secular? why we still imagine a public space above religions? why can't we be realistic of the multi-ethnic public space. pl. abandon the word 'He' to refer to God. regards, ahmed rafeek On 7/7/08, satchidanandan k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have grown up with Muslim friends and have lived near mosques whose azan never was a disturbance.And my attitude in these matters is no secret. No one is speaking against belief systems here, but only about the general quiet that we expect in any civilized society It is not the azan, nor the ordinary prayers in temples or churches that is the point of discussion, but the sound levels. My problem in Delhi is the Hindu jagarans that go on throughout the night while the microphone is kept at the highest decibels so that those nearby cannot read or sleep, it affects the students also very badly.There are clear rules about the sound levels, but the police is in collusion with those who run these jagarans, often the VHP people.And talking of tolerance, I feel it unfortunate that tolerance is now seen as something between one religion and another. The space for secular people is getting reified day by day. Real tolerance should also include the non-believers and the believers who try to think above religion in public matters.But it seems the believer will never tolerate the secular person or the non-believer. A real believer should accept that the atheists and the secular persons are also God's creatures and God does not abandon even men who abandon Him.Not tolerating the secular people is also an instance of intolerance.And that has much to do with the intolerant fundamentalism on the rise.Look at things from below. Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 08:08:57 +0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [GreenYouth] Re: sound pollution In the age of the stockmarket, only the one who shouts the loudest gets the attentionThe adhan (bank/ call to prayer) is not some thing that have been the custom in mosques for centuries... This "shouting" is not a prayer to Allah, but the invitation of the Muslims for prayer, which is mandatory in every mosque according to a muslim's belief... In the age of stock market, what is new is the intolerance towards such "incompatible" belief systems, that are "inferior" to more rational modernity... This is not suggest that muslims can't minimize the noise level in these calls.. Such things can be suggested in tolerant ways, rather than this secular rhetorics.. Hail those "meditate in silence"... There are so many impressed in such cultured ways of attaining god... RegardsAfthab On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 6:27 PM, S sanjeev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i have a request.before you lodge a complaint against those poor mullahs please read Ernst Kirchner Karel's doctoral dissertation "Kerala Sound Electricals:Amplified Sound and Cultural Meaning in South India". (Chicago univ,2003)PS; i wish i too had a beautiful reply just like satchidanandan's with all those birds,trees and wonderful silences.--- On Sun, 6/7/08, Subid K.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Subid K.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: [GreenYouth] sound pollutionTo: "Green Youth Movement" <[email protected]>Date: Sunday, 6 July, 2008, 4:50 PM Friends, Is there any group/people fighting against sound pollution? If yes, please reply. http://www.keralapcb.org/statutes/noise_rule.htm#nr3 this is the link that i got from net. It says we can complaint to authorities if the noise level exceeds the ambient noise standards by 10 dB(A) or more given in the table given last. I am worried more about the horns of certain vehicles and the early morning "prayers". Like banks from mosques, why can't they limit to one bank instead of giving it from six or seven nearby ones!? (talking from Valanchery town) Subid. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! <br_________________________________________________________________ Wish to Marry Now? Click Here to Register FREE http://www.shaadi.com/registration/user/index.php?ptnr=mhottag --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
