Hi Ajay, DO you mean the document describing the details?
Regards, GK V On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Vinod what are the details enclosed in the mails send to the > commissions... > > On Oct 16, 6:29 pm, "gk31.vinod gk31.vinod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Yesterday we had discussion with Mr. Stanley of CU. > > We called him to convince the seriousness of this issue. > > [He is not knowing the full details] > > > > He was challenging us what could be done on this. > > See, how BIG have people become with a party label. > > > > Regards, > > GK V > > > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:24 PM, gk31.vinod gk31.vinod < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > wrote: > > > HINDUISM v/s COMMUNISM > > > > > Hinduist feudalists said 'caste' and tried to utilise it. > > > Communist leads say forget 'CASTE' : Because they know it is the best > tool > > > today. If one forget his caste, he forget reasons of his backwardness. > Then > > > he could be exploited. > > > The study report on engineering college (by IRTC & posted by Mr. > Haynes) is > > > a communist sponsored program, so need to discuss it further. What I > prefer > > > to say is have separate technical institutions for S/C-S/T, give > intensive > > > training there. B'se S/C students are not performing well esp. in > Maths, > > > b'se that subject requires intensive guidance. How many S/C parents can > > > teach their son/daughter on high school maths. > > > > > Till today communism has won, with nobody including S/C, has given a > look > > > in to CU issue....People say they can't believe it. What we ask is THEN > WHAT > > > YOU BEIEVE IN? > > > I donot know how people have become so idiotic in kerala.... > > > > > Regards, > > > GK V > > > > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:31 PM, gk31.vinod gk31.vinod < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> See Ranju, > > > > >> The ONE mark failures are again bit tricky. It happens on the border > of > > >> moderation. It is not the case that people are getting actual marks > like > > >> that, but they corrupt for that. > > > > >> for e.g. 34 is a failure if moderation is 15 i.e. 34+1+15 = 50 , pass > > >> mark. > > >> 39 is a failure if moderation is 10 i.e. 39+1+10 = 50, > pass > > >> mark. > > > > >> They need not to tell moderation of the respective chances since it is > > >> again secret by law. > > > > >> Still, RTI for a mass data collection will be useful, since we can > scan > > >> for figures like 38,39,33,34 etc. > > > > >> You know one more thing. If you write for 10 marks also, we get > sometimes > > >> this 34 or 39 just to destroy our confidence. Failing for ONE mark is > really > > >> disturbing. Moreover the university staff also will insult saying > that. > > > > >> Regards, > > >> Sk > > > > >> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:25 PM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >wrote: > > > > >>> u can ask them to give info abt how many SC/ST students failed and > their > > >>> marks etc. Then u will have a data of the number of SC students > failed over > > >>> a period of time and their marks. If it is like one mark kind... one > can > > >>> use this as evidence to challenge it... and even produce it as a > proof for > > >>> such malprractises. i was just thinkng abt that possibilty, if there > exist > > >>> such a possibility. > > >>> does RTI apply to exams? > > >>> people have succefully tried RTI to bring to light the anomalies in > > >>> selection process. for eg: in JNU, new delhi > > > > >>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:14 PM, gk31.vinod gk31.vinod < > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >>>> Hi, > > > > >>>> Examination procedures are secret by law, hence RTI is helpless. > You > > >>>> can't get information on professor who did the valuation etc... > > > > >>>> This secrecy is what CPI[M] is exploiting and that is WHY they want > to > > >>>> rule universities. > > >>>> Only solution is to apply POWER and get details.... > > > > >>>> regards, > > >>>> GKV > > > > >>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:55 AM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >wrote: > > > > >>>>> hi vinod, > > > > >>>>> i dont think those SCs in CPI M will be able to do anything. > > >>>>> What abt filing an RTI so that we get facts in writtern form from > the > > >>>>> university itself.. > > > > >>>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:25 AM, gk31.vinod gk31.vinod < > > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> Hi, > > > > >>>>>> I contacted Mr. O.P. Ravindran. > > >>>>>> He also suggested to give a formal complaint on this. > > >>>>>> But we can't give the identity of students, without any assurance > that > > >>>>>> an action could be expected. We can't expect an academical inquiry > can > > >>>>>> easily bring out the truths. Best enquiry is from CPI[M] leads who > belong to > > >>>>>> S/C caste. We contacted many such people, all of which told us to > first > > >>>>>> prove the reported cases are not 'personal' problems(else they > will face > > >>>>>> action from party). What is the proof we can give for that? > > > > >>>>>> Whatever formal complaint we give, these people including Mr. O.P. > > >>>>>> Ravindran or Senate Member, can do a prima facie inquiry and see > such issues > > >>>>>> are happening there or not. Then to initiate a formal procedure > only > > >>>>>> complaint is required. Moreover, what ever we say, they are not > going to > > >>>>>> believe, untill they get solid proofs from inside university. They > have > > >>>>>> contacts to inquire on this and they can use it, since it is not > for a > > >>>>>> personal benefit, as it is one of the very serious issue faced by > Dalit > > >>>>>> students today. I donot why these leads become extraordinary > gentle, when in > > >>>>>> the face of core issues. Finding out proofs is not complicated as > this is > > >>>>>> not an issue of a single student or this is not known to many > people. Many > > >>>>>> political leads & staff inside university(including our relatives) > know > > >>>>>> this. Even DYFI leads from S/C category are aware of this. What is > lacking > > >>>>>> is a common interest. Only leads can streamline that. > > > > >>>>>> Once somebody other than us do such an inquiry and confirm the > issue, > > >>>>>> then procedures will become very simple & fast. We can get support > from > > >>>>>> S/C-S/T organisations and hence more people to guide (& ofcourse > protect) > > >>>>>> us. Then more students also will come to public and report their > issues... > > > > >>>>>> Regards, > > >>>>>> G K Vinod. > > > > >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 8:05 PM, ranju radha < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > >>>>>>> and as far as i know there is dalit students assn in CAlicut > > >>>>>>> university.. can contact Raveendran (i thinks so) > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
