HINDUISM v/s COMMUNISM Hinduist feudalists said 'caste' and tried to utilise it. Communist leads say forget 'CASTE' : Because they know it is the best tool today. If one forget his caste, he forget reasons of his backwardness. Then he could be exploited. The study report on engineering college (by IRTC & posted by Mr. Haynes) is a communist sponsored program, so need to discuss it further. What I prefer to say is have separate technical institutions for S/C-S/T, give intensive training there. B'se S/C students are not performing well esp. in Maths, b'se that subject requires intensive guidance. How many S/C parents can teach their son/daughter on high school maths.
Till today communism has won, with nobody including S/C, has given a look in to CU issue....People say they can't believe it. What we ask is THEN WHAT YOU BEIEVE IN? I donot know how people have become so idiotic in kerala.... Regards, GK V On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:31 PM, gk31.vinod gk31.vinod <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > See Ranju, > > The ONE mark failures are again bit tricky. It happens on the border of > moderation. It is not the case that people are getting actual marks like > that, but they corrupt for that. > > for e.g. 34 is a failure if moderation is 15 i.e. 34+1+15 = 50 , pass > mark. > 39 is a failure if moderation is 10 i.e. 39+1+10 = 50, pass > mark. > > They need not to tell moderation of the respective chances since it is > again secret by law. > > Still, RTI for a mass data collection will be useful, since we can scan for > figures like 38,39,33,34 etc. > > You know one more thing. If you write for 10 marks also, we get sometimes > this 34 or 39 just to destroy our confidence. Failing for ONE mark is really > disturbing. Moreover the university staff also will insult saying that. > > Regards, > Sk > > > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:25 PM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> u can ask them to give info abt how many SC/ST students failed and their >> marks etc. Then u will have a data of the number of SC students failed over >> a period of time and their marks. If it is like one mark kind... one can >> use this as evidence to challenge it... and even produce it as a proof for >> such malprractises. i was just thinkng abt that possibilty, if there exist >> such a possibility. >> does RTI apply to exams? >> people have succefully tried RTI to bring to light the anomalies in >> selection process. for eg: in JNU, new delhi >> >> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:14 PM, gk31.vinod gk31.vinod < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Examination procedures are secret by law, hence RTI is helpless. You >>> can't get information on professor who did the valuation etc... >>> >>> This secrecy is what CPI[M] is exploiting and that is WHY they want to >>> rule universities. >>> Only solution is to apply POWER and get details.... >>> >>> regards, >>> GKV >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:55 AM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>> >>>> hi vinod, >>>> >>>> i dont think those SCs in CPI M will be able to do anything. >>>> What abt filing an RTI so that we get facts in writtern form from the >>>> university itself.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:25 AM, gk31.vinod gk31.vinod < >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I contacted Mr. O.P. Ravindran. >>>>> He also suggested to give a formal complaint on this. >>>>> But we can't give the identity of students, without any assurance that >>>>> an action could be expected. We can't expect an academical inquiry can >>>>> easily bring out the truths. Best enquiry is from CPI[M] leads who belong >>>>> to >>>>> S/C caste. We contacted many such people, all of which told us to first >>>>> prove the reported cases are not 'personal' problems(else they will face >>>>> action from party). What is the proof we can give for that? >>>>> >>>>> Whatever formal complaint we give, these people including Mr. O.P. >>>>> Ravindran or Senate Member, can do a prima facie inquiry and see such >>>>> issues >>>>> are happening there or not. Then to initiate a formal procedure only >>>>> complaint is required. Moreover, what ever we say, they are not going to >>>>> believe, untill they get solid proofs from inside university. They have >>>>> contacts to inquire on this and they can use it, since it is not for a >>>>> personal benefit, as it is one of the very serious issue faced by Dalit >>>>> students today. I donot why these leads become extraordinary gentle, when >>>>> in >>>>> the face of core issues. Finding out proofs is not complicated as this is >>>>> not an issue of a single student or this is not known to many people. Many >>>>> political leads & staff inside university(including our relatives) know >>>>> this. Even DYFI leads from S/C category are aware of this. What is lacking >>>>> is a common interest. Only leads can streamline that. >>>>> >>>>> Once somebody other than us do such an inquiry and confirm the issue, >>>>> then procedures will become very simple & fast. We can get support from >>>>> S/C-S/T organisations and hence more people to guide (& ofcourse protect) >>>>> us. Then more students also will come to public and report their issues... >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> G K Vinod. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 8:05 PM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> and as far as i know there is dalit students assn in CAlicut >>>>>> university.. can contact Raveendran (i thinks so) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
