Hi, Yesterday we had discussion with Mr. Stanley of CU. We called him to convince the seriousness of this issue. [He is not knowing the full details]
He was challenging us what could be done on this. See, how BIG have people become with a party label. Regards, GK V On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:24 PM, gk31.vinod gk31.vinod <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > HINDUISM v/s COMMUNISM > > Hinduist feudalists said 'caste' and tried to utilise it. > Communist leads say forget 'CASTE' : Because they know it is the best tool > today. If one forget his caste, he forget reasons of his backwardness. Then > he could be exploited. > The study report on engineering college (by IRTC & posted by Mr. Haynes) is > a communist sponsored program, so need to discuss it further. What I prefer > to say is have separate technical institutions for S/C-S/T, give intensive > training there. B'se S/C students are not performing well esp. in Maths, > b'se that subject requires intensive guidance. How many S/C parents can > teach their son/daughter on high school maths. > > Till today communism has won, with nobody including S/C, has given a look > in to CU issue....People say they can't believe it. What we ask is THEN WHAT > YOU BEIEVE IN? > I donot know how people have become so idiotic in kerala.... > > Regards, > GK V > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:31 PM, gk31.vinod gk31.vinod < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> See Ranju, >> >> The ONE mark failures are again bit tricky. It happens on the border of >> moderation. It is not the case that people are getting actual marks like >> that, but they corrupt for that. >> >> for e.g. 34 is a failure if moderation is 15 i.e. 34+1+15 = 50 , pass >> mark. >> 39 is a failure if moderation is 10 i.e. 39+1+10 = 50, pass >> mark. >> >> They need not to tell moderation of the respective chances since it is >> again secret by law. >> >> Still, RTI for a mass data collection will be useful, since we can scan >> for figures like 38,39,33,34 etc. >> >> You know one more thing. If you write for 10 marks also, we get sometimes >> this 34 or 39 just to destroy our confidence. Failing for ONE mark is really >> disturbing. Moreover the university staff also will insult saying that. >> >> Regards, >> Sk >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:25 PM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> >>> u can ask them to give info abt how many SC/ST students failed and their >>> marks etc. Then u will have a data of the number of SC students failed over >>> a period of time and their marks. If it is like one mark kind... one can >>> use this as evidence to challenge it... and even produce it as a proof for >>> such malprractises. i was just thinkng abt that possibilty, if there exist >>> such a possibility. >>> does RTI apply to exams? >>> people have succefully tried RTI to bring to light the anomalies in >>> selection process. for eg: in JNU, new delhi >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:14 PM, gk31.vinod gk31.vinod < >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Examination procedures are secret by law, hence RTI is helpless. You >>>> can't get information on professor who did the valuation etc... >>>> >>>> This secrecy is what CPI[M] is exploiting and that is WHY they want to >>>> rule universities. >>>> Only solution is to apply POWER and get details.... >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> GKV >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:55 AM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> hi vinod, >>>>> >>>>> i dont think those SCs in CPI M will be able to do anything. >>>>> What abt filing an RTI so that we get facts in writtern form from the >>>>> university itself.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:25 AM, gk31.vinod gk31.vinod < >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I contacted Mr. O.P. Ravindran. >>>>>> He also suggested to give a formal complaint on this. >>>>>> But we can't give the identity of students, without any assurance that >>>>>> an action could be expected. We can't expect an academical inquiry can >>>>>> easily bring out the truths. Best enquiry is from CPI[M] leads who >>>>>> belong to >>>>>> S/C caste. We contacted many such people, all of which told us to first >>>>>> prove the reported cases are not 'personal' problems(else they will face >>>>>> action from party). What is the proof we can give for that? >>>>>> >>>>>> Whatever formal complaint we give, these people including Mr. O.P. >>>>>> Ravindran or Senate Member, can do a prima facie inquiry and see such >>>>>> issues >>>>>> are happening there or not. Then to initiate a formal procedure only >>>>>> complaint is required. Moreover, what ever we say, they are not going to >>>>>> believe, untill they get solid proofs from inside university. They have >>>>>> contacts to inquire on this and they can use it, since it is not for a >>>>>> personal benefit, as it is one of the very serious issue faced by Dalit >>>>>> students today. I donot why these leads become extraordinary gentle, >>>>>> when in >>>>>> the face of core issues. Finding out proofs is not complicated as this is >>>>>> not an issue of a single student or this is not known to many people. >>>>>> Many >>>>>> political leads & staff inside university(including our relatives) know >>>>>> this. Even DYFI leads from S/C category are aware of this. What is >>>>>> lacking >>>>>> is a common interest. Only leads can streamline that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Once somebody other than us do such an inquiry and confirm the issue, >>>>>> then procedures will become very simple & fast. We can get support from >>>>>> S/C-S/T organisations and hence more people to guide (& ofcourse protect) >>>>>> us. Then more students also will come to public and report their >>>>>> issues... >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> G K Vinod. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 8:05 PM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> and as far as i know there is dalit students assn in CAlicut >>>>>>> university.. can contact Raveendran (i thinks so) >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
