look at these national importance institutes----
in addition to IITs and IIMs,
Aligarh muslim university,alahabad,Bhu,visvabaharati and 19 NITs etc.
the mainstream discussions ar like this---
whether it is positive discrimination or not? is it affirmative action etc.
we have built up a powerful Corporate-political and Academic complex in 
india-they have set an agenda for anti-reservation.


--- On Thu, 9/4/09, Karthik Navayan <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Karthik Navayan <[email protected]>
> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Anti-reservation agenda-IIT, IIM are national  
> importance so you are not allowed
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, 9 April, 2009, 10:19 AM
> IIT, IIM are national importance so you are not
> allowed
> 
> On
> 23rd December 2008, at 2 to 3 pm 18 bills have passed in
> rajya sabha,
> the scheduled castes and schedule tribes (reservations in
> posts and
> services) Bill 2008 is one of them, After hearing the name
> of this bill
> we may understood that they are bringing this bill to
> provide
> reservation to the Sc ST, But reality is that this bill
> totally against
> to the policy of reservation and against to the spirit of
> constitution.
> 
> 
> According to the Section (1) of  4 of the above said
> bill  is
> providing exemption to fallow the reservation system to all
> the IITs
> and IIMs in the country they are 47 institutions, as the
> all IITs and
> IIMs are Institutes of National Importance, why only IIT,
> IIMs are
> institutes of national importance, ti may means the other
> educational
> institutes in the country are not important for the nation,
> In future
> the government may declare parliament and assemblies are
> national
> importance so there is no need to follow the reservation
> system in the
> parliament and assemblies
> 
> 
> It may leads to a situation the government will declare any
> department or sector as national importance and they will
> be exempted
> from reservation policy, they may say one day  the primary
> schools,
> high schools, collages and universities are national
> important
> institutions so there is no need to follow the reservation
> system, if
> we allow this bill to become as Act it will spoil entair
> system of
> reservation, the wonder is that this bill was passed in the
> rajya sabha
> within 3 minutes of time
> 
> 
> Ambedkar introduced reservation policy with his 40 years
> struggle
> of life and death, and our rajya sabha have passed a bill
> against the
> reservation  in 3 minutes, this is the time to raise doubt
> on the
> intellectuality and innocence of the members of the rajya
> sabha, and
> passing this bill without any discuss on it is a scrap on
> the face of
> it, and i have a desire to know what the rajya sabha
> members are doing
> while passing this bill, very important is that i am very
> much desired
> to know what the dalit rajya sabha members are doing while
> passing this
> bill
> 
> 
> This bill is against to the spirit of the constitution and
> against
> to the orders no 6-30/2005 of the human resource
> development
> department, as per this orders all the universities who are
> getting
> grants from university grants commission are bound to
> follow the
> reservation policy in the recruitment of lecturers and
> professors,
> readers, the same orders was sent to the all IIMs and IITs
> in the June
> 2008, here they reserved only jobs but there is no
> exemption on the
> merit and intelligence of the candidates and they brought a
> bill in the
> December 2008, it is crystal clear whose interests were
> there.
> 
> 
> Now they are going to introduce this bill in the loksabha,
> at least
> in the loksabha all the Members of parliament must and
> should oppose
> this bill  and demand to remove the section 4 of the SC,
> ST (
> Reservations in the posts and services) Bill 2008,
> particularly the
> dalit MP's have to create such a weather where this
> bill should go in
> to the dust bin, otherwise total reservation system will be
> spoiled
> 
> 
> there are 2300 teaching posts in the banaran Hindu
> university, and
> there are at least 500 teaching posts in the every IIT and
> IIM, so the
> total number of teaching  posts will be 23500 out of this
> the SC st
> candidates have to get at least 5287 teaching posts in the
> IIT and
> IIMs, just think for a minute are there dalits in the IIT
> and IIMs up
> to this number
> 
> 
> It is necessary to remember here there are no SC st people
> in the
> executive boards of IIT and IIMs and teacher selection
> committees, all
> upper caste selection board members are torturing Sc ST
> candidates
> history is the evidence of this, and it is very difficult
> to get
> approval of a PhD for for a dalit scholar from an upper
> caste
> professor, the dalits have to depend on the upper castes
> every where to
> get benefits of the scholarships and other schemes, 
> 
> 
> while such a horrible things  going on they should bring a
> law to
> support the dalits, instead of that they are trying to keep
> away all SC
> st people from IIT and IIMs, in this kind of situation why
> no dalit
> leader from Andra Pradesh talking about this, there are
> agitations in
> the entire country against this bill, 
> 
> 
> this is the time to keep away our personal agendas and
> unite to
> fight against this bill, if this bill passed in the loksaba
> the entaire
> dalit communities future will become dark
> 
> Karthik
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:06 AM,
> C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> while merit and national importance are coming back gain
> with much political interest in indian society.The prime
> minister spoke in Guwahati about the concern of IIT
> directors.What they are pin pointing is the importance of
> MERIT in these institutions.and we can't compromise with
> national interests.really,Most of the students passing out
> from these so called national institutes don't like to
> stay in india.many of them are settled in western countries.
> a study of media study group(delhi) reveals that the total
> students was passed out in AIIMS -2,129 (1956-1997).more
> than780 students are in abroad and enjoying the comforts of
> western countries.in 2002-2203,the
> budgetary allocation was rs 564 crores  to IITS,the
> allocation to primary education was just 3,577 crores.Indian
> institutes of national importance are existing at the total
> rejection of primary education.Indian elites coming from
> these institutes   are the most western addicted and they
> have no interests in
> 
> 
>  indian realities.they didn't think about what is the
> social base of their privilege.
> 
> look at the reality of indian reservation in indian higher
> education.
> 
> professor-BHU-1/360,aligarh-0/233,delhi
> university-3/332,jamia-0/80 (report of national commission
> on scs and sts-1999-2000).now,the story is not much
> different.
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 4/4/09, C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > From: C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]>
> 
> > Subject: Fw: [grey-youth-movement:2005] Re:
> Untochability politics
> 
> > To: [email protected]
> 
> > Cc: [email protected]
> 
> > Date: Saturday, 4 April, 2009, 11:25 AM
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> > --- On Sat, 4/4/09, C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]>
> 
> > wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > > From: C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]>
> 
> > > Subject: [grey-youth-movement:2005] Re:
> Untochability
> 
> > politics
> 
> > > To: [email protected]
> 
> > > Cc: [email protected]
> 
> > > Date: Saturday, 4 April, 2009, 11:06 AM
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 
> > >
> 
> > > --- On Sat, 4/4/09, C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]>
> 
> > > wrote:
> 
> > >
> 
> > > > From: C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]>
> 
> > > > Subject: [grey-youth-movement:2004]
> 
> > Untochability
> 
> > > politics
> 
> > > > To: [email protected]
> 
> > > > Cc: [email protected]
> 
> > > > Date: Saturday, 4 April, 2009, 11:03 AM
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > >
> 
> > > > the parliamentary election is coming.Just
> before
> 
> > this
> 
> > > > election,we have a sad news that there is a
> new
> 
> > > bill  about reservation in indain parliament
> .the
> 
> > upa
> 
> > > govt was 
> 
> > > > trying to implement it.reservation won't
> allow
> 
> > at
> 
> > > faculty
> 
> > > > level appointments in institutes  of
> national
> 
> > > importance.
> 
> > > > the so called scheduled castes and
> scheduled
> 
> > tribes
> 
> > > > bill(reservation in posts and services)was
> passed
> 
> > by
> 
> > > the UPA
> 
> > > > govt in rajya sabha).after thee
> parliamentary
> 
> > election
> 
> > > is
> 
> > > > over,next ministry will discuss in lower
> house of
> 
> > > parliament
> 
> > > > as well.No doubt,the impact of this bill is
> very
> 
> > > clear.this
> 
> > > > is an attempt to sabotage the present pro
> 
> > reservation
> 
> > > > political agenda.
> 
> > > > What is the meaning of this INSTITUTIONS OF
> 
> > NATIONAL
> 
> > > > IMPORTANCE?
> 
> > > > Many of the directors of INDIAN IITs are
> 
> > demanding to
> 
> > > drop
> 
> > > > the proposal of reservation in favour of
> 
> > > SCs,STs&OBCs in
> 
> > > > faculty appointments.
> 
> > > > IITs and IIMs-More than 47 institutes of
> india
> 
> > will be
> 
> > > in
> 
> > > > the brackets of "Institutions of
> National
> 
> > > Importance".
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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