this crisis in CPI M is welcome sign good for the working class good for the toiling millions good for left politcs
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]> wrote: > *C.K. * > ** > *Yes, I cannot disagree with you. CPM-PB, itself admitted that the left > rulers kept a distance from the people*.* Instead of taking the cause of > working class, they went behind new relations (third front) and political > tricks (Randathani). Also in kerala, the internal division is worse in its > history. * > ** > *While media, right wing politicians, communal organization are aligned at > one side, CPI-M failed to stand against them with determination and one > mind. * > ** > *regards* > *Rasheed* > ** > ** > ** > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:02 PM, C.K. Vishwanath < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> yes,but,what i am pointing out is the new crisis of cpim.you can't see >> this in earlier years of 2000.nandigram and singur is just like a naxalbari >> now.. >> they have been alienating from the struggles of the most oppressed >> sections of the people.we can understand this political scenario in >> kerala.the committed party votes have been decreasing.cpim had base in >> assam,dhanbad,andhra,agrrian belt of punjab,adivasi belt of thane,even in >> bavanagar of gujarath and urban areas of india-what happened to these >> areas?Moving way from mass struggles are the greatest mistakes.The only >> state in india,cpim is advancing in Rajastan which hss a different story. >> >> --- On Mon, 25/5/09, Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > From: Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [GreenYouth] Re: Vaikom Viswan and Little Bo-Peep >> > To: [email protected], [email protected] >> > Date: Monday, 25 May, 2009, 6:29 PM >> > Mr. C.K >> > >> > Such conculsions against LDF we heared just >> > after 2001 assembly elections too. The same conclusions >> > turned against UDF after 2004 parlament and 2006 assembly >> > elections. This time, again it is against LDF. We can hear a >> > different analysis in 2011 and 2014. >> > >> > >> > The people swing from LDF to UDF and back. >> > Nothing else. >> > >> > Regards >> > Rasheed >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:29 AM, >> > C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > -the left democratic politics of kerala led by CPIM has >> > got a severe set back.the switching of the character of >> > kerala voter-this analysis won't give much confidence to >> > the CPIM.Even ashok mitra has written so(the Telegraph).The >> > real shock is from kannur and vadakara-The committed party >> > votes are no longer in the CPIM account. ,the active >> > supporters of the party are searching for new >> > alternatives.this is really a challenging scenario.from the >> > days of 1940s,culcutta thesis,emergency,and other local >> > issues never affected the party vote bank of these >> > areas.PARTY is total-this is lost.the contradiction between >> > party and people is sharpening.This impact is so deep in the >> > history of CPIM. >> > >> > Just before the election,the cpim central committee member >> > A.k. padmabhan given an interview to world socialist web in >> > which he said that the administrative power which we got has >> > no meaning at all.And this is not a political power.The >> > problem is that they are sill failing to give a good >> > governance to the people. >> > >> > Even people's democratic path is far off.And socialism >> > is very far off.He underlined the comments of EMS in >> > 1957.And globalisation process has cut off the funds getting >> > from the central govt. >> > there are many confusions-pragmatic electoral >> > games,governance etc in the political praxis of cpim. >> > >> > >> > --- On Sun, 24/5/09, Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > From: Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]> >> > >> > > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Vaikom Viswan and Little >> > Bo-Peep >> > > To: [email protected] >> > > Date: Sunday, 24 May, 2009, 9:39 PM >> > >> > >> > >> > > Mr. D. Prasad, >> > > >> > > You taking out just a >> > > figure from the article of Vaikom Viswan and defining >> > it. >> > > As you said, a small swing can change the victory to >> > one >> > > side and that is what happened here. >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > Of course, there >> > > was erosion in CPI-M vote base (internal problems >> > > and divisions are the problem) and some LDF >> > > partners also vote against them to an extend. >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > A large scale voters >> > > from BJP did vote for Congress >> > > (comparing with last >> > > time it is above 6 % - but that calculation is not >> > right >> > > because last time, BJP got more percentage due to >> > personal >> > >> > > votes of Rajagopal and PC thomas of IFDP - Anyway we >> > can >> > > say approximately they lost between 4-5 % votes). >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Actually PDP do not >> > > have much vote share - now their vote bank is >> > actually with >> > >> > > NDF and NDF supported UDF. >> > > present NDF cadres are >> > > once PDP/ISS workers. >> > > >> > > A section of people did >> > > not vote for LDF due to different reasons (They did >> > not >> > > beleive in Third front, They didn't like Adwani >> > and >> > >> > > Modi and for them Dr.Manmohan was a better choice) >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Minorities (A section of >> > > muslims and christians) worked against LDF >> > > >> > > >> > > But even after all these >> > > problems worked against CPI-M (LDF), if there is only >> > 2 >> > >> > > lacks vote they lost from last time, sure, CPI-M >> > still >> > > remains STRONG. >> > > >> > > regards >> > > >> > > Rasheed >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 6:44 PM, >> > >> > > damodar prasad <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > If any one has missed reading this Devika's witty >> > > and sharp take on people's verdict for the 2009 >> > LS >> > >> > > elections, pls. follow the link: >> > > >> http://kafila.org/2009/05/19/vaikom-viswan-and-little-bo-peep/#more-2607 >> > >> > > >> > > a precise excerpt from this is as follows: >> > > >> > > The CPM leadership doesn’t >> > > seemed to have learned anything from this thrashing, >> > though. >> > > The LDF convenor, Vaikom Viswan, observes that the >> > CPM’s >> > >> > > share of the votes have reduced only by 2,28,638 and >> > > therefore its mass base remains intact. Well, we would >> > like >> > > to remind him that there is little consolation to be >> > drawn >> > > from this. It is a well-known fact that the LDF and >> > the UDF >> > >> > > are more or less equally matched and a small swing can >> > alter >> > > the balance. This time the swing was certainly not >> > small, >> > > compared with earlier elections, which is something >> > the >> > > leaders of the CPM have admitted.And besides, the >> > erosion of >> > >> > > support was most evident in CPM’s core areas of >> > strength; >> > > therefore it is not as if the non-political strata >> > decided >> > > to vote UDF. Voters in core areas usually are loyal, >> > while >> > > the support received in non-core areas may be driven >> > by >> > >> > > other, more local calculations. This is evident to the >> > most >> > > ordinary voter but Vaikom Viswan and his peers are so >> > used >> > > to thinking that the rest of us Malayalees are morons >> > — >> > > and hence continues dish out such weak argument. >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > Explore and discover exciting holidays >> > and getaways with Yahoo! India Travel http://in.travel.yahoo.com/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > -- " The so called caste-hindus are bitterly opposed to the depressed class using a public tank not because they really believe that the water will be thereby spoiled or will evaporate but because they are afraid of losing their superiority of caste and of equality being established between the former and the latter. We are resorting to this satyagraha not becasue we believe that the water of this particular tank has any exceptional qualities, but to establish our natural rights as citizens and human beings." - Dr B.R. 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