--- On Tue, 26/5/09, C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]>
> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Vaikom Viswan and Little Bo-Peep
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, 26 May, 2009, 9:59 AM
>
>
> dear comrade,
> cpim had a base in agrarian belt of tamil nadu.In those
> areas,local landlords were afiliated with dravidian parties.dalits who
> were the base of CPIM.during the time of election,Cpim was
> trying to elcetoral adjustments with these deavidian parties
> which were representing the aspirations of rural
> elites.they are the worst oppressors of Dalits.you must have
> remembered the struggles of Kilevenamani in late 1960s.
> Non-parliamentary struggles had to give a way to electoral
> adjustments.in such a scenario,what will be the future of dalits?
> this was also happening in andrapradesh.
> Now ,a new political scenarion is emerging.agrarian struggles
> are leading some other forces.(A debate manini
> chatterjee,the telegraph and prasenajith bose,research unit of
> cpim,loksabha-why the left lost).mamata banerjee is wooing
> the agrarian agenda of the left.new governace politics of
> Left front/left democratic force led by cpim has been
> alienating from their own agenda.the development of
> productive forces politics leads to ruling elite interests.
>
>
> --- On Mon, 25/5/09, Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Vaikom Viswan and Little
> Bo-Peep
> > To: "C.K. Vishwanath" <[email protected]>,
> [email protected]
> > Date: Monday, 25 May, 2009, 9:25 PM
> > C.K.
> >
> >
> > Yes, I cannot
> > disagree with you. CPM-PB, itself admitted that the
> left
> > rulers kept a distance from the people.
> > Instead of taking the cause of working class, they
> went
> > behind new relations (third front) and political
> tricks
> > (Randathani). Also in kerala, the internal division
> is
> > worse in its history.
> >
> >
> > While media, right
> > wing politicians, communal organization are aligned at
> one
> > side, CPI-M failed to stand against them with
> determination
> > and one mind.
> >
> > regards
> > Rasheed
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:02 PM,
> > C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > yes,but,what i am pointing out is the new crisis of
> > cpim.you can't see this in earlier years of
> > 2000.nandigram and singur is just like a naxalbari
> now..
> >
> > they have been alienating from the struggles of the
> most
> > oppressed sections of the people.we can understand
> this
> > political scenario in kerala.the committed party votes
> have
> > been decreasing.cpim had base in
> > assam,dhanbad,andhra,agrrian belt of punjab,adivasi
> belt of
> > thane,even in bavanagar of gujarath and urban areas
> of
> > india-what happened to these areas?Moving way from
> mass
> > struggles are the greatest mistakes.The only state in
> > india,cpim is advancing in Rajastan which hss a
> different
> > story.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 25/5/09, Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]>
> >
> > > Subject: Re: [GreenYouth] Re: Vaikom Viswan and
> > Little Bo-Peep
> > > To: [email protected],
> > [email protected]
> >
> > > Date: Monday, 25 May, 2009, 6:29 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > > Mr. C.K
> > >
> > > Such conculsions against LDF we heared just
> > > after 2001 assembly elections too. The same
> > conclusions
> > > turned against UDF after 2004 parlament and
> 2006
> > assembly
> >
> > > elections. This time, again it is against LDF. We
> can
> > hear a
> > > different analysis in 2011 and 2014.
> > >
> > >
> > > The people swing from LDF to UDF and back.
> > > Nothing else.
> > >
> > > Regards
> >
> > > Rasheed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:29 AM,
> > > C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > -the left democratic politics of kerala led
> by
> > CPIM has
> > > got a severe set back.the switching of the
> character
> > of
> > > kerala voter-this analysis won't give much
> > confidence to
> > > the CPIM.Even ashok mitra has written so(the
> > Telegraph).The
> >
> > > real shock is from kannur and vadakara-The
> committed
> > party
> > > votes are no longer in the CPIM account. ,the
> > active
> > > supporters of the party are searching for new
> > > alternatives.this is really a challenging
> > scenario.from the
> >
> > > days of 1940s,culcutta thesis,emergency,and
> other
> > local
> > > issues never affected the party vote bank of
> these
> > > areas.PARTY is total-this is lost.the
> contradiction
> > between
> > > party and people is sharpening.This impact is so
> deep
> > in the
> >
> > > history of CPIM.
> > >
> > > Just before the election,the cpim central
> committee
> > member
> > > A.k. padmabhan given an interview to world
> socialist
> > web in
> > > which he said that the administrative power which
> we
> > got has
> >
> > > no meaning at all.And this is not a political
> > power.The
> > > problem is that they are sill failing to give a
> good
> > > governance to the people.
> > >
> > > Even people's democratic path is far off.And
> > socialism
> >
> > > is very far off.He underlined the comments of EMS
> in
> > > 1957.And globalisation process has cut off the
> funds
> > getting
> > > from the central govt.
> > > there are many confusions-pragmatic electoral
> > > games,governance etc in the political praxis of
> cpim.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 24/5/09, Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]>
> >
> > >
> > > > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Vaikom Viswan and
> > Little
> > > Bo-Peep
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Date: Sunday, 24 May, 2009, 9:39 PM
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Mr. D. Prasad,
> > > >
> > > > You taking out just a
> > > > figure from the article of Vaikom Viswan
> and
> > defining
> > > it.
> > > > As you said, a small swing can change the
> victory
> > to
> >
> > > one
> > > > side and that is what happened here.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Of course, there
> > > > was erosion in CPI-M vote base (internal
> > problems
> > > > and divisions are the problem) and some
> LDF
> >
> > > > partners also vote against them to an
> extend.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > A large scale voters
> > > > from BJP did vote for Congress
> > > > (comparing with last
> > > > time it is above 6 % - but that calculation
> is
> > not
> >
> > > right
> > > > because last time, BJP got more percentage
> due
> > to
> > > personal
> > >
> > > > votes of Rajagopal and PC thomas of IFDP -
> > Anyway we
> > > can
> > > > say approximately they lost between 4-5 %
> > votes).
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually PDP do not
> > > > have much vote share - now their vote bank
> is
> > > actually with
> > >
> > > > NDF and NDF supported UDF.
> > > > present NDF cadres are
> >
> > > > once PDP/ISS workers.
> > > >
> > > > A section of people did
> > > > not vote for LDF due to different reasons
> (They
> > did
> > > not
> > > > beleive in Third front, They didn't like
> > Adwani
> >
> > > and
> > >
> > > > Modi and for them Dr.Manmohan was a better
> > choice)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Minorities (A section of
> > > > muslims and christians) worked against LDF
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > But even after all these
> > > > problems worked against CPI-M (LDF), if
> there is
> > only
> > > 2
> > >
> > > > lacks vote they lost from last time, sure,
> CPI-M
> > > still
> > > > remains STRONG.
> >
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > >
> > > > Rasheed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 6:44 PM,
> > >
> > > > damodar prasad <[email protected]>
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If any one has missed reading this Devika's
> > witty
> > > > and sharp take on people's verdict for the
> > 2009
> > > LS
> > >
> > > > elections, pls. follow the link:
> >
> > > > http://kafila.org/2009/05/19/vaikom-viswan-and-little-bo-peep/#more-2607
> > >
> > > >
> > > > a precise excerpt from this is as follows:
> >
> > > >
> > > > The CPM leadership doesn’t
> > > > seemed to have learned anything from this
> > thrashing,
> > > though.
> > > > The LDF convenor, Vaikom Viswan, observes
> that
> > the
> > > CPM’s
> > >
> >
> > > > share of the votes have reduced only by
> 2,28,638
> > and
> > > > therefore its mass base remains intact.
> Well, we
> > would
> > > like
> > > > to remind him that there is little
> consolation to
> > be
> > > drawn
> >
> > > > from this. It is a well-known fact that the
> LDF
> > and
> > > the UDF
> > >
> > > > are more or less equally matched and a
> small
> > swing can
> > > alter
> > > > the balance. This time the swing was
> certainly
> > not
> >
> > > small,
> > > > compared with earlier elections, which is
> > something
> > > the
> > > > leaders of the CPM have admitted.And
> besides,
> > the
> > > erosion of
> > >
> > > > support was most evident in CPM’s core
> areas
> > of
> >
> > > strength;
> > > > therefore it is not as if the non-political
> > strata
> > > decided
> > > > to vote UDF. Voters in core areas usually
> are
> > loyal,
> > > while
> > > > the support received in non-core areas may
> be
> > driven
> >
> > > by
> > >
> > > > other, more local calculations. This is
> evident
> > to the
> > > most
> > > > ordinary voter but Vaikom Viswan and his
> peers
> > are so
> > > used
> > > > to thinking that the rest of us Malayalees
> are
> > morons
> >
> > > —
> > > > and hence continues dish out such weak
> argument.
> > >
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