dear comrade, cpim had a base in agrarian belt of tamil nadu.In those areas,local lords filiated with dravidian parties.dalits who were the base of CPIM.during the time of election,Cpim was trying to elcetoral adjustments with these deavidian parties which were representing the aspirations of rural elites.they are the worst oppressors of Dalits.you must have rememberd the struggles of Kilevenamani in late 1960s. Non-parliamentary struggles had to give a way to electoral adjustments. this was also happening in andrapreadesh. Now ,new political scenarion is emerging.agrarian struggles are leading some other forces.(A debate manini chatterjee,the telegraph,prasenajith bose,research unit of cpim,loksabha-why the left lost).mamata banerjee is wooing the agrarian agenda of the left.new governace politics of Left front/left democratic forces led by cpim has been alienating from their own agenda.the development of productive forces politics leads to ruling elite interest.
--- On Mon, 25/5/09, Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]> > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Vaikom Viswan and Little Bo-Peep > To: "C.K. Vishwanath" <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > Date: Monday, 25 May, 2009, 9:25 PM > C.K. > > > Yes, I cannot > disagree with you. CPM-PB, itself admitted that the left > rulers kept a distance from the people. > Instead of taking the cause of working class, they went > behind new relations (third front) and political tricks > (Randathani). Also in kerala, the internal division is > worse in its history. > > > While media, right > wing politicians, communal organization are aligned at one > side, CPI-M failed to stand against them with determination > and one mind. > > regards > Rasheed > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:02 PM, > C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > yes,but,what i am pointing out is the new crisis of > cpim.you can't see this in earlier years of > 2000.nandigram and singur is just like a naxalbari now.. > > they have been alienating from the struggles of the most > oppressed sections of the people.we can understand this > political scenario in kerala.the committed party votes have > been decreasing.cpim had base in > assam,dhanbad,andhra,agrrian belt of punjab,adivasi belt of > thane,even in bavanagar of gujarath and urban areas of > india-what happened to these areas?Moving way from mass > struggles are the greatest mistakes.The only state in > india,cpim is advancing in Rajastan which hss a different > story. > > > > --- On Mon, 25/5/09, Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > From: Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [GreenYouth] Re: Vaikom Viswan and > Little Bo-Peep > > To: [email protected], > [email protected] > > > Date: Monday, 25 May, 2009, 6:29 PM > > > > > Mr. C.K > > > > Such conculsions against LDF we heared just > > after 2001 assembly elections too. The same > conclusions > > turned against UDF after 2004 parlament and 2006 > assembly > > > elections. This time, again it is against LDF. We can > hear a > > different analysis in 2011 and 2014. > > > > > > The people swing from LDF to UDF and back. > > Nothing else. > > > > Regards > > > Rasheed > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:29 AM, > > C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > -the left democratic politics of kerala led by > CPIM has > > got a severe set back.the switching of the character > of > > kerala voter-this analysis won't give much > confidence to > > the CPIM.Even ashok mitra has written so(the > Telegraph).The > > > real shock is from kannur and vadakara-The committed > party > > votes are no longer in the CPIM account. ,the > active > > supporters of the party are searching for new > > alternatives.this is really a challenging > scenario.from the > > > days of 1940s,culcutta thesis,emergency,and other > local > > issues never affected the party vote bank of these > > areas.PARTY is total-this is lost.the contradiction > between > > party and people is sharpening.This impact is so deep > in the > > > history of CPIM. > > > > Just before the election,the cpim central committee > member > > A.k. padmabhan given an interview to world socialist > web in > > which he said that the administrative power which we > got has > > > no meaning at all.And this is not a political > power.The > > problem is that they are sill failing to give a good > > governance to the people. > > > > Even people's democratic path is far off.And > socialism > > > is very far off.He underlined the comments of EMS in > > 1957.And globalisation process has cut off the funds > getting > > from the central govt. > > there are many confusions-pragmatic electoral > > games,governance etc in the political praxis of cpim. > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 24/5/09, Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > From: Abdul Rasheed <[email protected]> > > > > > > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Vaikom Viswan and > Little > > Bo-Peep > > > To: [email protected] > > > Date: Sunday, 24 May, 2009, 9:39 PM > > > > > > > > > > Mr. D. Prasad, > > > > > > You taking out just a > > > figure from the article of Vaikom Viswan and > defining > > it. > > > As you said, a small swing can change the victory > to > > > one > > > side and that is what happened here. > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, there > > > was erosion in CPI-M vote base (internal > problems > > > and divisions are the problem) and some LDF > > > > partners also vote against them to an extend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A large scale voters > > > from BJP did vote for Congress > > > (comparing with last > > > time it is above 6 % - but that calculation is > not > > > right > > > because last time, BJP got more percentage due > to > > personal > > > > > votes of Rajagopal and PC thomas of IFDP - > Anyway we > > can > > > say approximately they lost between 4-5 % > votes). > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually PDP do not > > > have much vote share - now their vote bank is > > actually with > > > > > NDF and NDF supported UDF. > > > present NDF cadres are > > > > once PDP/ISS workers. > > > > > > A section of people did > > > not vote for LDF due to different reasons (They > did > > not > > > beleive in Third front, They didn't like > Adwani > > > and > > > > > Modi and for them Dr.Manmohan was a better > choice) > > > > > > > > > > > > Minorities (A section of > > > muslims and christians) worked against LDF > > > > > > > > > > But even after all these > > > problems worked against CPI-M (LDF), if there is > only > > 2 > > > > > lacks vote they lost from last time, sure, CPI-M > > still > > > remains STRONG. > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Rasheed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 6:44 PM, > > > > > damodar prasad <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > If any one has missed reading this Devika's > witty > > > and sharp take on people's verdict for the > 2009 > > LS > > > > > elections, pls. follow the link: > > > > http://kafila.org/2009/05/19/vaikom-viswan-and-little-bo-peep/#more-2607 > > > > > > > > a precise excerpt from this is as follows: > > > > > > > The CPM leadership doesn’t > > > seemed to have learned anything from this > thrashing, > > though. > > > The LDF convenor, Vaikom Viswan, observes that > the > > CPM’s > > > > > > share of the votes have reduced only by 2,28,638 > and > > > therefore its mass base remains intact. Well, we > would > > like > > > to remind him that there is little consolation to > be > > drawn > > > > from this. It is a well-known fact that the LDF > and > > the UDF > > > > > are more or less equally matched and a small > swing can > > alter > > > the balance. This time the swing was certainly > not > > > small, > > > compared with earlier elections, which is > something > > the > > > leaders of the CPM have admitted.And besides, > the > > erosion of > > > > > support was most evident in CPM’s core areas > of > > > strength; > > > therefore it is not as if the non-political > strata > > decided > > > to vote UDF. Voters in core areas usually are > loyal, > > while > > > the support received in non-core areas may be > driven > > > by > > > > > other, more local calculations. 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