Richard Chonak a écrit : > > Whether people "should" use the vertical episema is debatable, but the > official 1974 Graduale Romanum uses it, and many people use it, with > varying interpretations. I hope you don't make the product unfriendly > to those users. > > When I think of the output from the "Gregoire" software, for example, > the vertical episema there is almost unreadable. >
The recent Graduale from Solesmes was reprinted from an old edition of the 30's and corrected, because it was much cheaper to do so than to rebuild one from scratch. The corrections they made were for example correcting some divisio minima by printing a sign above, this means that if they could they would have it removed, but as it is reprinted they can't. It's the same for vertical episemus, but they can't put a sign next to every vertical episemus, that would make the scores unreadable... The thing is, I don't know if the very recent (some months) Vatican II antiphonary of Solesmes still has vertical episema... I don't think so, but we never know... In any case, the vertical episemus is still present and readable in Gregorio, that's not at all a problem. For the difficulty to get gregorio installed, I'm going to work on it, and make a script to properly install the fonts on a standard (that means non debian/ubuntu) TeXLive. I'm also going to port gregorio under cygwin (it's almost done now), so that it will be usable under windows. If any of you have some ideas how to make gregorio compile under mingw, please let me know! This way cygwin wouldn't be mandatory. And once again, sorry for the recent fontforge thing... I'll try to convert it to another format, and then (with an old fontforge) to an old sfd format, but I can't promise anything... The best thing would be that I make a stable release, and I'm going to do so soon, the thing is there are still some small annoying rare bugs, and some things to improve in the TeX output, so I'm still delaying, which may not be the best solution... As soon as a release will be done, I'll have it integrated in the debian/sid repositories, and ubuntu should follow, so it will be much easier for people to install it! For contributions on the documentation, that would be a pleasure and a huge help! I will commit my work tonight if I don't come back too late from Loretto (I have a kind of tourism week with some monks). If you want, Richard, I can give you an svn access to contribute on the documentation. To do so you must register on gna.org, and I'll add you on the administration interface. For the GUI I basically had two ideas: The first would be quite simple (or at least I hope so), it would be a kind of interface to write gabc (with simple highlighted syntax), with some buttons to compile it with gregorio, and if it's not too difficult a basic LaTeX editor with the same functions (syntax highlight and buttons to compile). That would be totally unuseful to me and certainly to you, but that would make gregorio much more accessible for monks who are not that gifted with computers... and according to what I see here, that makes a lot of monks ;) The second would be more complicated to code, but I already have a prototype working, so some work is done already. It is an really graphical interface, that displays a score, and writes the notes as you type them in gabc. I stopped my work on it for two reasons: first for people to be happy with gregorio, it is more important to have a "perfect" TeX output, and it has been a lot of work (TeX can be extremely tricky sometimes). But the other reason is that with this kind of interface you don't have *at all* the same output as in TeX, so people will be very confused when they will see that the spaces, the end of lines, etc. will be very different from the final output... And I can't find any solution to it, except writing it everywhere in the documentation... Maybe another way to explore would be to write a kind of plugin or patch for a TeX WYSIWYG GUI, but for me it doesn't seem like the perfect solution neither (too heavy)... Maybe the best solution would be to mix the two ideas. Like this people would understand it better... I'm not decided at all, and I'm waiting for your advices! Anyway, thank you all for your help! -- Elie _______________________________________________ Gregorio-devel mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/gregorio-devel
