George,

I have updated the draft with the extra example as you suggested. I do believe this adds to the clarity.

I made note of the term 'squat space'.

I have not included discuss of implications for an IS-IS hidden core. I agree with your comments, however, I thought that discussion was moving a little away from the core topic.

A new draft has been posted:

Filename:	 draft-kirkham-private-ip-sp-cores
Revision:	 07
Title:		 Issues with Private IP Addressing in the Internet
Creation date:	 2011-10-05
WG ID:		 Individual Submission
Number of pages: 14


Regards
Tony K



On 1/10/11 2:58 AM, George, Wes wrote:

I might note that the more common term for what you’re calling “stolen” address space is squat space, but that’s a minor nit at best.

 

Also, I think it’s important to make a distinction between setups where there are no global addresses on a given router at all  vs situations where the router has one or more loopbacks or other interfaces which are publicly routable, but the individual PTP interfaces are using 1918 space (or are configured with “unnumbered”). I think that this is equally uncommon within a tier-1 ISP, but some of the accompanying problems can be managed better with configuration tweaks to force the box to use a certain source address for “from us” packets. This also helps in situations where ISIS core hiding is being used, since if a traceroute is sourced from the wrong IP, the boxes on the path may not know the route back to it and the trace fails in similar fashion.

Your illustration of problems with traceroute would be one scenario that might benefit from this variant, assuming that the specific implementation in question can be configured to respond using a specific address as the source IP, rather than simply responding on whatever the ingress interface’s IP address is.

You may want to discuss this in section 11.

 

Thanks,

 

Wes George

 

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All,

I have just posted a new draft. There has only been one minor modification.

Filename:       draft-kirkham-private-ip-sp-cores
Revision:       06
Title:          Issues with Private IP Addressing in the Internet
Creation date:  2011-09-09
WG ID:          Individual Submission
Number of pages: 13

I believe this is ready for publication. Any advice on the next step would be appreciated.

Regards
Tony K

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