On Nov 14, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
> 
> I certainly support the premise presented int his draft and that this is a 
> significant issue. 

In addition to Jared, Shane, Eric and I, other folks said route leaks are a 
problem as well on SIDR.  I'll provide full fragment for context below, and 
they can chime in if they so choose...

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Begin forwarded message:

> From: Christopher Morrow <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [sidr] The need for SIDR - Google limited outage today due to 
> bogus route announcement
> Date: November 7, 2012 3:56:33 PM EST
> To: Danny McPherson <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected] list" <[email protected]>
> 
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Danny McPherson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>> 
>>> 1) show/agree that this is a problem (route leaks)
>> 
>> Do you believe this is a problem?  When describing events such as this as
>> of late, what did you call it?
> 
> sure, but I'm not the grow-wg ... right? aim that question over ->
> <mailto: [email protected]> there.

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Begin forwarded message:

> From: Randy Bush <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [sidr] The need for SIDR - Google limited outage today due to 
> bogus route announcement
> Date: November 7, 2012 10:22:16 PM EST
> To: Christopher Morrow <[email protected]>
> Cc: sidr wg list <[email protected]>
> 
> <pedantry>
> 
>> "'Route leaks" are viewed as a routing security problem..."
> 
> route leaks, as we anecdotally know them, are an operational problem.
> imiho, they are not particularly a security problem.  but that does not
> mean i think the ietf routing community should not be working on a
> solution, quite the opposite.
> 
> randy


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