On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:40 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On 16 Oct 2014, at 0:04, Christopher Morrow <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
>>> This practice, especially if/when it becomes more common, presents two 
>>> challenges:
>
>>> 1. Large numbers of prefixes may show up in the global routing table. For 
>>> instance, there is a number plan for all of the German government, which 
>>> could potentially inject more than 5000 municipality prefixes into the 
>>> global IPv6 routing table.
>
>> ok <1% growth.
>
> What do you mean?

5000 is less than 1% of 540k... (I think, math is hard and all that business)
for the (since someone else shot me a note behind the scenes about
this as well) forseable future we'll have v4 + v6 to deal with in a
DFZ device, so call it even at 540k routes today in the table, your 5k
extra is less than 1% of that.

>>> Ideally, a set of best practices would be developed that strike a good 
>>> balance between the needs of large organizations and the needs of the 
>>> global routing system, and allow everyone to predict the consequences of 
>>> different kinds of behavior and thus avoid unpleasant surprises.
>
>> i feel like we sort of have that already, or we know how the global
>> table works and people live within those constraints.
>
> I've only heard from a few people who do this / want to do this so far, but 
> from what I hear they really want some clarity in this area. Spending a lot 
> of time and money to set all of this up and then discovering your prefixes 
> are filtered is rather suboptimal.
>

So, some folk thought: "Hey, not announcing my aggregate and not
providing connectivity between the aggregate announcement and the
little islands I created is a grand plan!" and were surprised when
things went badly...

Do you want a document that says:
  "Sure, announce your aggregate as a bunch of de-aggs, and be sure
there's a fall back ASIDE FROM ::/0 which has reachability to your
islands, if you want to be sure to not run afoul of random isp route
filtering."

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