Dear Michael,

Before we proceed, can you clarify how exactly
draft-ietf-grow-as-path-prepending updates RFC 7454 and RFC 8195?

In relationship to 8195, the only sentence I see is "AS Path Prepending
is discussed in Use of BGP Large Communities [RFC8195]." - which is true
(8915 contains an example about prepending once), however the rest of
the text in draft-ietf-grow-as-path-prepending-10 doesn't seem an
'update' in IETF document logistics parlance?

Kind regards,

Job

On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 06:23:13PM +0000, Michael McBride wrote:
> Hello grow chairs,
> 
> Any chance we can get a wglc started on this draft after this latest
> round of edits? The authors have felt it's ready for quite some time.
> It's going on four years now. Please consider.
> 
> Thanks,
> mike
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GROW <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael McBride
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 11:21 PM
> To: Martin Pels <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-as-path-prepending-09.txt
> 
> Hi Martin,
> 
> I just submitted a new version to address your (and Alejandro's) comments. 
> See my comments in line (MM):
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GROW <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Martin Pels
> Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2024 1:00 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-as-path-prepending-09.txt
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Some comments
> -------------
> 
> Section 3.1 and 4:
> As has been mentioned before on this list, I think using the term "route 
> leak" in this scenario is confusing. Something like "suboptimal" or 
> "unintended" routing would be a better fit.
> 
> MM: Done. Used both terms in place of route leak.
> 
> 3.2 and 3.3:
> These do not appear to be separate problems, but rather two examples of the 
> same problem (a malicious, shorter route being preferred over a legitimate, 
> prepended route).
> 
> MM: I think it is ok to describe two similar problems.
> 
> 7:
> This only mentions the sending side. There is also security advice to be 
> given to the accepting side (see section 3.5 and 3.6). Something like 
> "Accepting routes with extremely long AS_PATHs may cause increased memory 
> usage and possibly router crashes."
> 
> MM: I inserted exactly that sentence.
> 
> A reference to ASPA may also be useful in this section, since this could help 
> mitigate the effects of the route leaks described in 3.2 and 3.3.
> 
> MM: Good idea, I added a sentence on ASPA.
> 
> Text nits
> ---------
> 
> Abstract:
> AS_Path attribute -> AS_PATH attribute
> 
> MM: Done
> 
> multiple entries of an AS -> multiple entries of an ASN
> 
> MM: Done
> 
> This document provides guidance with -> This document provides guidance for
> 
> MM: Done
> 
> 1:
> the AS_PATH attribute which -> the AS_PATH attribute, which
> 
> MM: Done
> 
> 2:
> today including -> today, including
> 
> MM: Done
> 
> 4:
> more then 1 -> more than 1
> 
> MM: Done
> 
> Thank you! I also added you and Alejandro to the acknowledgements.
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> Martin
> 
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