Jeff,

True. But we there is clear opportunity to define those scoped for IXP use
case.

This is BCP so IMO good place to encourage using common encoding for most
common needs.

Thx,
R.

On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 11:23 PM Jeffrey Haas <[email protected]> wrote:

> There is no such thing as a well known large bgp community.
>
>
> Jeff
>
> On Jun 7, 2024, at 15:51, Robert Raszuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Job/WG,
>
> Reading the document I have a feeling/suggestion that perhaps this is a
> very good time now to define few IXP focused well known Large Communities
> such that most often signalled policies between RS and their clients are
> well defined and not random among IXPs.
>
> That may also in fact encourage faster migration to LCs from Extended
> Commuities.
>
> Thx a lot,
> Robert
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 9:39 PM Job Snijders <job=
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks David, we will incorporate this in the next revision
>>
>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 at 21:15, David Farmer <farmer=
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I reviewed the draft;
>>>
>>> The Abstract and Introduction says, "It includes guidance for both the
>>> Internet Service Provider side peering with Route Servers and IXPs
>>> operating Route Servers."
>>>
>>> However, the document no longer calls for any direct actions by ISPs.
>>> Obviously, the actions recommended for IXPs will impact the ISPs using
>>> IXPs. However, the statements above imply direct actions by ISPs in
>>> addition to IXPs, not indirect impacts on ISPs from IXP actions.
>>>
>>> You should probably rephrase the above statements to refer to indirect
>>> impacts on ISPs unless you expect ISPs to take other direct actions, and if
>>> you do, those other actions need to be more clearly stated.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 11:09 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-grow-ixp-ext-comms-00.txt is now available.
>>>> It is a
>>>> work item of the Global Routing Operations (GROW) WG of the IETF.
>>>>
>>>>    Title:   Recommendation to avoid use of BGP Extended Communities at
>>>> Internet Exchange Route Servers
>>>>    Authors: Job Snijders
>>>>             Stavros Konstantaras
>>>>             Mo Shivji
>>>>    Name:    draft-ietf-grow-ixp-ext-comms-00.txt
>>>>    Pages:   5
>>>>    Dates:   2024-06-04
>>>>
>>>> Abstract:
>>>>
>>>>    This document outlines a recommendation to the Internet operational
>>>>    community to avoid the use of BGP Extended Communities at Internet
>>>>    Exchange Point (IXP) Route Servers.  It includes guidance for both
>>>>    the Internet Service Provider side peering with Route Servers and
>>>>    IXPs operating Route Servers.  This recommendation aims to help the
>>>>    global Internet routing system's performance and help protect Route
>>>>    Server participants against misconfigurations.
>>>>
>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-grow-ixp-ext-comms/
>>>>
>>>> There is also an HTMLized version available at:
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-grow-ixp-ext-comms-00
>>>>
>>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
>>>> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
>>>>
>>>>
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