It seems out of scope to me

On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 at 23:30, Robert Raszuk <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> True. But we there is clear opportunity to define those scoped for IXP use
> case.
>
> This is BCP so IMO good place to encourage using common encoding for most
> common needs.
>
> Thx,
> R.
>
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 11:23 PM Jeffrey Haas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> There is no such thing as a well known large bgp community.
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2024, at 15:51, Robert Raszuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hi Job/WG,
>>
>> Reading the document I have a feeling/suggestion that perhaps this is a
>> very good time now to define few IXP focused well known Large Communities
>> such that most often signalled policies between RS and their clients are
>> well defined and not random among IXPs.
>>
>> That may also in fact encourage faster migration to LCs from Extended
>> Commuities.
>>
>> Thx a lot,
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 9:39 PM Job Snijders <job=
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks David, we will incorporate this in the next revision
>>>
>>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 at 21:15, David Farmer <farmer=
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I reviewed the draft;
>>>>
>>>> The Abstract and Introduction says, "It includes guidance for both the
>>>> Internet Service Provider side peering with Route Servers and IXPs
>>>> operating Route Servers."
>>>>
>>>> However, the document no longer calls for any direct actions by ISPs.
>>>> Obviously, the actions recommended for IXPs will impact the ISPs using
>>>> IXPs. However, the statements above imply direct actions by ISPs in
>>>> addition to IXPs, not indirect impacts on ISPs from IXP actions.
>>>>
>>>> You should probably rephrase the above statements to refer to indirect
>>>> impacts on ISPs unless you expect ISPs to take other direct actions, and if
>>>> you do, those other actions need to be more clearly stated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 11:09 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-grow-ixp-ext-comms-00.txt is now available.
>>>>> It is a
>>>>> work item of the Global Routing Operations (GROW) WG of the IETF.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Title:   Recommendation to avoid use of BGP Extended Communities at
>>>>> Internet Exchange Route Servers
>>>>>    Authors: Job Snijders
>>>>>             Stavros Konstantaras
>>>>>             Mo Shivji
>>>>>    Name:    draft-ietf-grow-ixp-ext-comms-00.txt
>>>>>    Pages:   5
>>>>>    Dates:   2024-06-04
>>>>>
>>>>> Abstract:
>>>>>
>>>>>    This document outlines a recommendation to the Internet operational
>>>>>    community to avoid the use of BGP Extended Communities at Internet
>>>>>    Exchange Point (IXP) Route Servers.  It includes guidance for both
>>>>>    the Internet Service Provider side peering with Route Servers and
>>>>>    IXPs operating Route Servers.  This recommendation aims to help the
>>>>>    global Internet routing system's performance and help protect Route
>>>>>    Server participants against misconfigurations.
>>>>>
>>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-grow-ixp-ext-comms/
>>>>>
>>>>> There is also an HTMLized version available at:
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-grow-ixp-ext-comms-00
>>>>>
>>>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
>>>>> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
>>>>>
>>>>>
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