On Aug 16, 2011, at 3:41 PM, david koff wrote:

> chris:
> 
> i posted a polite and descriptive question to the forum.

My question was polite. Rather than just assume as to why you were asking what 
you were asking, I wanted more information first before knee jerking a response 
of "oh go do this". I figured you would like an answer that actually solves the 
problem rather than just a guess as to what the problem is. As a sysadmin 
myself I tend to prefer to know the root cause of the problem before trying to 
address it, rather than applying a bandaid solution. I'm sure you can 
understand that since you are a sysadmin yourself.

> rather than
> answering my question, you instead challenged why i asked it. it
> doesn't MATTER why i asked the question, brother: as a sysadmin, i
> have a task i need to accomplish. so i politely responded for what i
> wanted a second time. you countered with a really mean and heartless
> reply.

It wasn't mean at all, I was simply explaining why I wanted you to simply 
explain what's going on before I answer. I'm sorry you took it as mean, but it 
wasn't meant that way. Email is not a face to face conversation, reading into 
things is really a poor idea in my experience. No disrespect meant, I seriously 
wanted to know what I asked for, and that's it.

> and you did it on a public board for everyone to see. i thought
> this was a discussion forum for growl,

It is a discussion venue that you can use via the web or via email. As such, I 
wanted to discuss it before going "oh here, do this". As it is the solution I 
was thinking of likely will not work depending on your scenario, so I really, 
really do need to know why you are doing what you are doing.

> not a vehicle for you to flame
> folks who like the software and have invested time in trying to work
> with it.
> 

And it's not a vehicle for you to flame the people who want to help you. So far 
you have yet to actually explain the reasoning behind what you are doing.

> I guess i was wrong.
> 

No, you're right. Except you're wrong that you read into what I sent more than 
was actually there.

> you take care. and maybe get a cup of chamomile tea...
> 
> 

I actually prefer black with a spot of honey and milk. That doesn't help you 
though. I would suggest you drink that tea you're offering me, think about what 
I asked, and then answer my question. Simply put I want to know why you are 
doing what you are doing so that I can answer the questions correctly, that's 
it.

We've been working on Growl for a very long time, and as you can see it's only 
recently that administrators are asking us questions about how to fit Growl 
into their environment. I'm not going to assume that every administrator has 
the same reasoning behind what they are doing, so I really do need to know why 
you are doing what you are doing. If you do not want an answer, then you've 
really just wasted our time simply because you didn't want to type out why. 
That seems silly, you have the people who work on the product you want to 
deploy answering you directly and you want to have a fight about how one 
question was phrased that you don't want to answer but that would help us 
immensely in solving the problem you are having.

Help us help you. Bottom line, answer my question and we can move on. If you 
instead want to talk about the limitations of a class 5 language like the 
English language, then feel free to do that but I probably will not continue 
responding. I do not feel my question had any vitriol in the slightest, and 
would have been easy to answer and gotten you a faster answer if you had not 
read it that way either.

Let's start over. Please tell us why you want to do what you are wanting to do 
so that we can better answer the original question.

Chris

> 
> 
> On Aug 16, 12:23 pm, Chris Forsythe <[email protected]> wrote:
>> That's not what I asked, I need to know why so that I know how to answer 
>> your question. So please answer what was asked.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On Aug 16, 2011, at 2:19 PM, david koff wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> is it possible, please?
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 11:45 am, Chris Forsythe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Why would you want this?
>> 
>>>> Chris
>> 
>>>> On Aug 16, 2011, at 1:42 PM, david koff wrote:
>> 
>>>>> my situation is this:
>> 
>>>>> i manage a network of several hundred macs. i've used JAMF's composer
>>>>> tool to successfully snapshot the growl installation. in my snapshot,
>>>>> i'm only activating growl notify and have set up that application with
>>>>> a particular set of window colors and so forth. however, once
>>>>> deployed, although the deployment works like a charm, ANY OTHER
>>>>> application with the growl framework auto-detects the software and
>>>>> begins providing on screen messages for each of those apps.
>> 
>>>>> is there a way to set the default of the application to only active
>>>>> those programs i say "yes" to?
>> 
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> david
>> 
>>>>> sysadmin
>>>>> the j. paul getty trust,
>>>>> los angeles
>> 
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