chris, josh: a fine idea: i'll start over, apologize for my misunderstandings and just say, we love growl enough that us sysadmins here want to use it for one specific task: as a unique and customizable way to message the desktops of our users. that's it. compared to other messaging options, you should know: growlnotify is a WINNER of a solution. probably the best i've seen yet. and i've been a mac sysadmin for 15 years. it's customizable in so many ways as to make the other options (applescript, bash, HUD) look like yesterday's solution. seriously. from the sysadmin perspective, just that one portion of your software is a gold mine.
the problem is that - after reading the thread that josh suggested and the tech notes on the growl framework - it's clear that other apps with the growl framework auto-register with growl and just begin to pop-up their own messages. and there doesn't appear to be a way to prevent that... or is there? why would we want that? the answer to your question is that, when beta-testing our growl deployment, the one critique we repeatedly got from our colleagues was: although we love the look/functionality of new alert messages you're sending us, why are all of these OTHER messages from other applications suddenly showing up? we don't want those! so, a few suggestions/questions: 1) is it possible to separate growlnotify from the rest of the pack since it would seem (after reading the threads) that a lot of folks on enterprise want to use JUST that for messaging to desktop without the other clutter? 2) is it possible to deploy growl across our network with those "auto- activate" features turned off, at least initially, if possible. this way, the power is still in the hands of the user, and we're just setting an "initial deployment" state. as for black tea: are you a darjeeling or a Lapsang soughing kinda guy? seriously: i do like chamomile. and rooibos since we're sharing. david On Aug 16, 2:28 pm, Chris Forsythe <[email protected]> wrote: > On Aug 16, 2011, at 3:41 PM, david koff wrote: > > > chris: > > > i posted a polite and descriptive question to the forum. > > My question was polite. Rather than just assume as to why you were asking > what you were asking, I wanted more information first before knee jerking a > response of "oh go do this". I figured you would like an answer that actually > solves the problem rather than just a guess as to what the problem is. As a > sysadmin myself I tend to prefer to know the root cause of the problem before > trying to address it, rather than applying a bandaid solution. I'm sure you > can understand that since you are a sysadmin yourself. > > > rather than > > answering my question, you instead challenged why i asked it. it > > doesn't MATTER why i asked the question, brother: as a sysadmin, i > > have a task i need to accomplish. so i politely responded for what i > > wanted a second time. you countered with a really mean and heartless > > reply. > > It wasn't mean at all, I was simply explaining why I wanted you to simply > explain what's going on before I answer. I'm sorry you took it as mean, but > it wasn't meant that way. Email is not a face to face conversation, reading > into things is really a poor idea in my experience. No disrespect meant, I > seriously wanted to know what I asked for, and that's it. > > > and you did it on a public board for everyone to see. i thought > > this was a discussion forum for growl, > > It is a discussion venue that you can use via the web or via email. As such, > I wanted to discuss it before going "oh here, do this". As it is the solution > I was thinking of likely will not work depending on your scenario, so I > really, really do need to know why you are doing what you are doing. > > > not a vehicle for you to flame > > folks who like the software and have invested time in trying to work > > with it. > > And it's not a vehicle for you to flame the people who want to help you. So > far you have yet to actually explain the reasoning behind what you are doing. > > > I guess i was wrong. > > No, you're right. Except you're wrong that you read into what I sent more > than was actually there. > > > you take care. and maybe get a cup of chamomile tea... > > I actually prefer black with a spot of honey and milk. That doesn't help you > though. I would suggest you drink that tea you're offering me, think about > what I asked, and then answer my question. Simply put I want to know why you > are doing what you are doing so that I can answer the questions correctly, > that's it. > > We've been working on Growl for a very long time, and as you can see it's > only recently that administrators are asking us questions about how to fit > Growl into their environment. I'm not going to assume that every > administrator has the same reasoning behind what they are doing, so I really > do need to know why you are doing what you are doing. If you do not want an > answer, then you've really just wasted our time simply because you didn't > want to type out why. That seems silly, you have the people who work on the > product you want to deploy answering you directly and you want to have a > fight about how one question was phrased that you don't want to answer but > that would help us immensely in solving the problem you are having. > > Help us help you. Bottom line, answer my question and we can move on. If you > instead want to talk about the limitations of a class 5 language like the > English language, then feel free to do that but I probably will not continue > responding. I do not feel my question had any vitriol in the slightest, and > would have been easy to answer and gotten you a faster answer if you had not > read it that way either. > > Let's start over. Please tell us why you want to do what you are wanting to > do so that we can better answer the original question. > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 16, 12:23 pm, Chris Forsythe <[email protected]> wrote: > >> That's not what I asked, I need to know why so that I know how to answer > >> your question. So please answer what was asked. > > >> Chris > > >> On Aug 16, 2011, at 2:19 PM, david koff wrote: > > >>> is it possible, please? > > >>> On Aug 16, 11:45 am, Chris Forsythe <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> Why would you want this? > > >>>> Chris > > >>>> On Aug 16, 2011, at 1:42 PM, david koff wrote: > > >>>>> my situation is this: > > >>>>> i manage a network of several hundred macs. i've used JAMF's composer > >>>>> tool to successfully snapshot the growl installation. in my snapshot, > >>>>> i'm only activating growl notify and have set up that application with > >>>>> a particular set of window colors and so forth. however, once > >>>>> deployed, although the deployment works like a charm, ANY OTHER > >>>>> application with the growl framework auto-detects the software and > >>>>> begins providing on screen messages for each of those apps. > > >>>>> is there a way to set the default of the application to only active > >>>>> those programs i say "yes" to? > > >>>>> cheers, > >>>>> david > > >>>>> sysadmin > >>>>> the j. paul getty trust, > >>>>> los angeles > > >>>>> -- > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>> Groups "Growl Discuss" group. > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>> [email protected]. > >>>>> For more options, visit this group > >>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/growldiscuss?hl=en. > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "Growl Discuss" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/growldiscuss?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Growl Discuss" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/growldiscuss?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Growl Discuss" group. 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