On Nov 7, 12:33 pm, Christian Franz <[email protected]> wrote:
> Al,
>
>         two points and a challenge:
>
> 1. You do not need Growl 1.3 to use Growl because the Growl 1.3 app is only 
> the UI to the new Growl backend. That backend is still free and comes with 
> Growl-using apps.
>
> 2. Who do you think you are that you have the nerve to complain that 
> something that *obviously* has value for you isn't free any more? For what 
> it's worth (note that I am NOT part of the dev team, just another independent 
> dev who integrates Growl into my own apps), I applaud the fact that Growl 
> *finally* charges for their hard work (not enough IMHO, but that's another 
> story). Giving out freebies produces this terrible mindset of 'entitlement' 
> that you exhibit: 'I am entitled to get everything free, and everyone ELSE 
> should provide it to me'. YOU should be ashamed of yourself. Nobody sucked 
> you in. You got something of value for free, and after using it (and deriving 
> it's benefit) you complain that a new service (the Growl 1.3 App) isn't free?

I think what the OP was complaining about was the fact that many
developers external to the Growl project added support because it
represented an easy, free, and standardised way to distribute alerts
to their programs users. Growl would not have the popularity it enjoys
today without the time and hard work of developers outside of the
Growl project, but those developers will not benefit from the app
store revenue.

If the source code for the 1.3 GUI as well as backend was made
available as an xcode project, which users/developers could compile
themselves, then I think a lot of the negative feelings about charging
for 1.3 would dissipate. The vast majority of users would still
download the app store version, but at least there'd still be the
*option* to get the software for free.

It'd also make the GUI available for developers to test... because to
be honest, adding notification support into your application then
finding that you have to buy software to test is properly, is a bit of
a kick in the teeth. It's only £1.79, but that's 8 packets of ramen to
a hungry developer, and it's more of the principle anyway.

>
> > or better yet when there is a free
> > competitor and the developers start to switch.
>

Yes GNTP should be standardised as an RFC to encourage
interoperability. There is definitely a need for this type of alerts
system in the wider networking and systems administration industry.
Syslog just doesn't cut it...

Open source software is usually a collaborative enterprise, more of a
socialist system than a capitalist one, and as a contributor to
multiple open source projects, the switch kind of grates.

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