Hi Sven, > Am 17.04.2019 um 16:09 schrieb Sven Dyroff <s.dyr...@phytec.de>: > > Hello Nicolaus, > > > So let's people popup here and tell they want to help to continue QtMoko! > > but the question is: On which hardware?
Whatever they want to have it running on. Original QtMoko did run on PC as well and within qemu. So missing hardware is not really an excuse to not work on the code. But a small hint about hardware: As you know, I am working on a GTA15 (aka PyraPhone). This will be able to run all LetuxOS software, including QtMoko2. I do have not much spare time to work on it, so I can only promise that it is done when it is done and there is nothing new to really show around since I presented a first concept a while ago. > > As far as I know the Neo900 project has starved to death. > > this is the basic problem. GTA04 cannot work with 4G and we all know that 2G > as well as 3G frequencies will be switched off in the next couple of years > due to the needs for 5G. Yes, but that is still 3-4 years in the future. 2G is said to live even longer since 4G telephony isn't good in rural areas. 5G may change that of course. But if I look at my family, nobody has a 4G tariff... So switching to 5G will really take a while. > So GTA04 has no long-term future anymore. > > Not to mention all the soldering problems with GTA04A5. Well, yes. I might finally find time to try another repair attempt. But still this will only give 30 devices at maximum. Some components (e.g. speakers) do no longer exist for making more of them. > Neo900 would have been the consequent successor for the GTA04, because it was > the only project that reflected that in order to build a mobile phone that > you can trust to the most crucial thing is the modem. This project planned to > take precautions for every nastiness of which we know about at least since > Edward Snowden for driving its 4G modem. This still wouldn't have been > effective against some nastinesses of which even Edward Snowden didn't know > about, but that's another theme. > > In my eyes all other projects like Librem5 are only bullshit. Their only > purpose is to cause confusion and to deflect from the basic problem: The > modem! Well, I don't fear the modem. As soon as you want to make use of it you have to turn it on and accept that it is not trustworthy and can't be. Next, it does not work on its own. As long as it is a separate one connected through e.g. USB and some AT commands for control. Key is IMHO End2End encryption for secure communication. Then you can use any untrusted channel and the modem is just one such channel. So this is a matter of which higher level application software we use. Not the hardware. > But Neo900 died and noone knows to where all the money has gone to that they > collected. > > And meanwhile times have changed to be even worse: Not only that people don't > consider about the trustworthiness of their phone. No, they now even buy > phones and watches that measure their health state, by constantly > transmitting data about heartbeat, temperature, skin resistance and so on to > many fancy servers all around the world. Noone of them worries about the > possible consequences. So we're consequently walking into scenarios like > these: > > The GPS of your phone transmits that you entered a supermarket. Well, it does not even need GPS for doing that. The WLAN chip can scan for neighboring WLAN routers and send a list of those SSIDs to a central server that has a big database of Router-SSIDs. As soon as someone else had turned on GPS in such a situation, the database can contain the location... This is probably something we can't avoid. Well, we can if there is no client software for this on the device. > The health sensors suddenly transmit that your heartbeat and your temperature > is rising and your skin resistance is falling. Some fancy server transmits an > alert message to the security of the supermarket because it assumes that you > have stolen something. They come to you in order to search your clothes and > don't believe you that you only got a hay fever attac at the flower storage > rack. :) Yes, that is the new world. At least in the dreams of some IoT evangelists. Well, they are looking every day for new markets. It is their job... > So who wants still support QtMoko2? Everyone who does want to know a little more of how the device works. And be able to configure and enable/disable services on demand. > Perhaps best thing would be to read the book "The Shockwave Rider" from John > Brunner (again) and by this time reconsider that mankind manged to organize > itself without mobile phone for thousands of years: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shockwave_Rider > > The picture on the cover of the German version already tells everything, so I > attached it... Well, I don't share your pessimism and apocalyptic view here... Especially if it seems to end in a "we can't do anything about it". I believe we can do something. It is not easy and does not go over night. But small steps are small steps if they go to the right direction. Therefore we simply must restart with something as a big team. Could be first steps for a newer Replicant or QtMoko2 for GTA04. But we should not promise big solutions in short time at low efforts. This was the mistake of some failed projects since GTA04. And I would even include GTA04A5 to have made the same mistake... BR, Nikolaus _______________________________________________ Gta04-owner mailing list Gta04-owner@goldelico.com http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/gta04-owner
