Actually, I just purchased a Schuberth Concept helmet. This is the company
that makes the BMW System helmet.  It is neither DOT nor SNELL approved, but
I have every confidence that it will afford as much protection as any
comparable helmet purchased stateside.  They simply have chosen to stay out
of the US market at the present time thanks to our litigious environment.
FWIW, YMMV, etc., etc., etc.

Roger


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Friday, November 03, 00 4:18 AM
Subject: RE: Helmets


>
>
>On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Gil Hillman wrote:
>
>> Is there such a thing as a Snell approved helmet that isn't DOT approved?
I
>> don't think so; I don't think the helmet can be sold as a motorcycle
helmet
>> if it isn't DOT approved. So this isn't an either-or, it's a one-or-both,
>> and "both" surely offers a bit of extra protection.
>
>Gil, you're right, at least as far as the U.S. is concerned.  Any helmet
>sold in the U.S. (for many years now) MUST have a DOT approval, or the
>seller is breaking federal law.  Snell is optional.  Any state with a
>mandatory helmet law uses the DOT standard as the measure of
>"acceptability" so the lack of that little decal is what gets you a
>ticket.  Sadly, there are firms that sell DOT stickers, and there are
>riders who stick them on replica Nazi helmets, "puddin' bowl" replicas,
>and......heck, I suspect Viking hats (right Sven?).
>
>Those across the big pond(s)--can you buy a helmet outside the U.S.
>without a DOT sticker on it?
>
>Phil
>
>



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