> decided that after a safe stop,
> you can run the red"

Gee, we got cars and SUVs that run the red without checking the safety of
it, first.  They just barrel on through, like it's their right (or is it
"their right of way"?).

Regards,

Henry S. Winokur
94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF,
Nationally Certified Riding Instructor
Columbia, MD Ride for Kids Task Force
West Bethesda, MD USA

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