I assume Renegade runs dyno tests when they design new exhaust systems.  I
can't see buying a new exhaust system that has not been tested,  Especially
when we are removing a major restriction of the CATS.  I sure don't want to
end up with loosing the bottom end torque.  It is far more important than
picking up a few HP at the top, which I rarely ever run up to.

hawke


On 7/11/02 10:33 AM, "Crisler, Jon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, from my basic understanding of hi-performance engines, exhaust tubes
> can be tuned as follows:
>
> smaller primary tubes help in the areas of low-end torque, but tend to
> somewhat restrict high-end flow.  The reverse is also true:  larger tubes
> aid in high-rpm/gas volume flow, but might hold back low-end torque.  So in
> the 2000-5000 rpm range, you might drop 5% with the large tubes.  Above 5k,
> larger tubes might give back 5-10%.  Again, these numbers are just
> speculation, as you would have to do a dyno test and get the charts.
>
>> From previous messages, we can see that this seems to be true of the GTS,
> FZR's etc., where the GTS has smaller primary tubes and the other bikes the
> large 34.5 mm tubes.  My gut feeling is that going to a non-cat 34mm system
> might yield another 10% power increase, assuming the computer can
> compensate.  EFI systems with an oxigen sensor can usually compensate for
> intake/exhaust system changes up to about 20% of flow with no modifications.
>
> My preference as this point would be larger tubes.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Derek Baylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 6:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: aftermarket exhausts
>
>
> Here's a question for anyone in the know about fitting aftermarket exhausts
> to the GTS.  I'm interested in in completing my Renegade system by buying
> the downpipes and collector (I already have their muffler).  If I open up my
> exhaust that much--by having removed the restrictive stock muffler and
> ditching the cat. con. altogether--might I risk drastically changing the
> power characteristics of my bike?  I suspect I'll pick up some top-end
> oompf, but will I sacrifice mid-range grunt, or risk making the choppy
> throttle response even worse?  Can the GTS injection system keep up, or will
> I be running dangerously lean all time?  Anyone out there have a full
> aftermarket system and can speak to the changes, or at least have some
> strong theoretical knowledge to share?  Thanks.
>
> -Derek
>
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