At 10:12 01/11/02 -0500, you wrote:
I've heard all of these arguments and all of Keith's stuff, although I've not ridden the no BS bike.
likewise
[snip] Any of you ride bicycles as a kid? Ever ride 'no hands'? Could you steer the bike?
As a kid? As a middle-aged adult! And I can go round corners, *of course!*.
There isn't any difference between a bicycle's steering and a motorcycle's steering in terms of basic function. The difference comes in magnitude.[snip]Can I ride the twisties with body steering only? No. Does body steering have an effect? Certainly. In fact, the fact that it is so weak compared to handlebar steering can be used to great effect to 'fine tune' one's lean angle.
Mike, thanks for that injection of reality/physics! The shift in body weight stuff works for my urban riding which is all < 50 mph and nearly all < 30mph, at those speeds it (subjectively) takes less effort and is more fun than pushing and pulling on the bars. I know full well it has damn-all effect in > 100 mph sweepers. Keith Code is a 'guru' - that means a lot of things, good and bad. I'm up for listening to what gurus have to say, but I'm not really the follower type. ============================== David Thurgate (for Name-Shop) http://www.name-shop.co.uk/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 [0]20 77035349 +44 [0]794 1158849
