> Let me try this one more time, there is body steer in motorcycling....and
> Elvis is still alive if we can define what alive is! All kidding aside,
it's
> all a matter of degrees guys. Yes you can change directions with the body
> alone but on a heavy motorcycle it requires much-much greater effort than
> the push/pull of the handle bars. And totally effective is what you want
to
> be on a motorcycle that's why we counter steer more and in conjunction
with
> body shift. Most riders use all means available to them to steer, some
with
> little and some with large effects and don't even think about it since it
> happens so naturally. The mind/body is a wonderful tool.....at least to
some
> of us :-))))
>
> And yes I also own a brick (Volvo to you laymen) and it will hurt like a
> brick when it hits ya so do stay out of my damn way you motorcycle riding
> hoodlums.
> 740 George
>
