--- On Mon, 1/18/10, David Scheidt <[email protected]> wrote:

> Brandon Cope <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > --- On Mon, 1/18/10, David Scheidt <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Brandon Cope <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I didn't say they weren't valuable. I just
> said they
> > > weren't as vulnerable
> > > > as tracks.
> > >
> > > YOu keep asserting it.  It's not going to
> become true
> > > because of repetition.
> >
> > The side saying legs are more vulnerable than tracks
> hasn't proven that
> > either.
> >
> They're substantially larger targets.  Larger
> surface area, harder to
> armor.

Under VE2 rules, no and yes. VE2 bases to-hit modifiers on volume and tracks 
and legs both are normally 60% of body volume. So, if the mech have the same 
sized body, then at best the legs have the same bonus to be hit as tracks. I 
say "at best" because VE2 treats tracks as a single subassembly, while each leg 
is a subassembly. So, it's likely a single legs is harder to hit than a single 
leg.

OTOH, this does make legs heavier to armor since two 300 cf legs have more 
surface area than one 600 cf track subassembly.

>  Contain all sorts of vital power transmission
> stuff (details depends
> on what you're using to move them), which makes them
> vulnerable: nearly any
> attack that breaches armor will hit something
> important.  (legs won't have
> much dead space, because they need to be as light as
> possible.)
 
Legs normally only contain the legged transmission (although I have put power 
cells and dischargers in them in some designs); if you lose the leg you really 
don't need the transmission.

(One advantage mecha has in VE2 is transmission placement. While a legged 
transmission is double the weight (and thus volume) of a tracked transmission, 
it goes in the legs, while nothing can be placed in a tracked subassembly. 
Given the rather large volume of the legs, they can handle the legged 
transmission easily. This also means that since there is no transmission in the 
body, the body can be slightly smaller than that of a tank)
 
> > See p.VE180, Jamming Tracks. There really isn't an
> equivalent for legs.
> >
> >
> Mecha don't have shoelaces to tie together?

Alas no.

Brandon 



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