On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Onno Meyer <[email protected]> wrote:
> DataPacRat wrote:

>> Since there'll be a lot of them, they should be fairly cheap;
>
> That could be penny wise and pound foolish. Moving stuff in orbit,
> at TL8, requires fuel to move the fuel to move the fuel. Saving a
> few pounds of weight could really pay.

Well, by 'fairly cheap' I was thinking more of avoiding $100,000+
parts in each one.


>> they should have at least a minimal
>> ability to move themselves around without external assistance, to
>> allow for docking;
>
>> P&P: 36,364-kWs advanced battery, six 10 lbs. thrust MOX rockets
>> (vectored thrust, Isp 278, delta-V 0 mph; long term access).
>>
>> Fuel: 64.8 gal standard fuel tank (fire modifier -2), 5.4 gal
>> metal/LOX (fire 13).
>
> Are those suitable for docking?
>
> * The exhaust is molten sand. Do you want that near a habitat?
> * The accel is so low that the final approach will take an
>  eternity.

Both troubles freely admitted.

I suppose that since the builders have access to the occasional tame
comet, I don't necessarily have to worry as much about the difficulty
of acquiring CHON-based fuels.

Argon would still seem to be rare; my Vehicles Expansions are
currently MIA, so I'm going to have to do a bit of digging to find the
stats for nitrogen-fuelled cold-gas thrusters.


>> Equipment
>> All: sealed.  Body: metal armor volume; short range radio communicator
>> (1-mile range); GPS; small computer (complexity 1; dumb); burglar
>> alarm (Skill-15); 1-man airlock; six radars (scan 5, 0.1-mile range;
>> no targeting).
>
> * Backup commo and sensors would be really cheap.

So they would.

> * No terminal?

The setting diverges somewhat from standard G:Vehicles for terminals -
they're mostly treated as being ubiquitous, near-free, and
near-weightless.


> * No targeting means no rangefinding. In space, that would be
>  really useful.

Wups - I'd seen the 'no targeting' and 'often used by civilians', and
missed the 'no rangefinding'.

> * OTOH, you don't need six sensors for a full sphere coverage.
>  Each covers half a sphere, so four are enough.

Noted.

>> TL8 light frame cheap materials [Vehicle].
>> TL8 DR 5 standard metal [Vehicle].
>> Vehicle Features: primitive controls, no streamlining, cheaply made.
>
> Primitive controls with rockets?

<forehead-slap> Missed fiddling with that entry in GVB.

> And as mentioned above, the
> cost of maintenance and of moving the empty weight will be
> substantial.

I'm hoping to cover most maintenance with cyberswarms.


>> Body: underbelly skid.
>
> Where do you plan to land?

Luna. Possibly some small asteroids/comets that've been pushed into
Earth-Lunar orbital space.


Thank you for your time,
--
DataPacRat
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