Which I say that feature should go away from every, other, screen reader! Its annoying just being there! Ok, now where we...
On 10/23/2008 2:42 PM, Chip Orange wrote: > As for the spacebar, that's windows which has defined it to work as a > single left click. I believe that's why it works to activate links. > Chip > > > > ------------------------------ > > Chip Orange > Database Administrator > Florida Public Service Commission > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (850) 413-6314 > > (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) > > > *From:* Trenton Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:18 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Window-eyes Browse Mode Support > > To quote from the scripts documentation: > > "IE Max seeks to maximize the functionality of Internet Explorer > for a > Window-Eyes user, exploiting features from both the IE object > model and > the WE browse mode. The script is intended to make clipping, > combining, > and saving parts of web pages as convenient as possible." > > Now, when the "new" browse mode support is finalized, most of the > commands will not work as they use to, because the actual access keys > will actually work! Now, if Window-eyes didn't suport the use of > "showing" what access keys were on a page, I wouldn't have problem > with > this. Except, that Window-eyes "does!" support the showing of these, > thereby most users thinking that they can simply press "alt+j" for > example, to highlight a link, such as "join us." The thing is, in > browse > mode, you can't, because it doesn't have the functionality to do so. > Now, with System Access, and with Hal (dolphin's screen reader," > you can > still jump to a link like that, however both screen readers don't > announce keys. > Now, I thought > that this feature was in the IE Max script, but it is in the "homer > layout" one, where Jamal gives the functionality of pressing > "control+up/down-arrow" to move correctly to a paragraph, the > "windows!" > way. This is also the case in NVDA as well. > > Now, the great thing about WE here, is that pressing space "does > not!" > activate a link, because its not suppose to. Why all the others do > that, > i don't know. Could someone explain that for me please if they > can? And > finally, for "dolphins," sake of things, who would make a screen > reader > use the insert key, to activate a link? That is totally out of the > question! > > ~ Pastor Gil Pries wrote: > > Hi, > > What exactly does that ie max script do? > > Never used it. > > Pastor Gil > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Trenton Matthews > > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > > [email protected] > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:15 AM > > *Subject:* Re: Window-eyes Browse Mode Support > > > > I note of one concern with the new browse mode coming soon: > > What's gonna happen to Jamal's wonderful IE Max script? A lot of > > changes > > would have to be made. > > Trenton Matthews wrote: > >> Hello to everyone. > >> > >> A few discoveries in browse mode need to be told here that are > > not so > >> wonderful, comparing to other screen readers, leaving out "The > > Shark," > >> as it doesn't mean anything here! > >> > >> 1. > >> > >> 1. In Jamals Homer Layout script, the correct paragraph keys for > > windows > >> "control+up/down-arrows," can be used along-side the > >> "p/shift-p" commands inside the original > >> brows mode. I'm hoping that can be added to the updated browse > > mode in > >> the next update. > >> 2. Combow-boxes I know can be interactive with by pressing > enter on > >> them, however i wish for them to be interacted the triditional > > way of > >> "alt+up/down-arrow" keys without leaving to turn off browse mode. > >> 3. For anyone that's played with the Hal screen reader from > > Dolphin, I > >> wonder if if the new browse mode can be like the "interactive > > mode" that > >> dolphin has. > >> > >> 4. Access keys in Firefox and Explorer need to be interacted > > with the > >> correct way, of "alt+its letter," or "alt-shift+its letter" in > > firefox > >> 3. Now, because window-eyes has to have browse mode turned off > when > >> trying to go straight to these links, its more of a > >> cumbersome task than anything. I say, in the next version, > "alt+f5" > >> should be the new "refresh-roter" hotkey. > >> > >> Hope that any of these suggestions can be thought upon. > >> > >> Trenton > >> > >> > >> > >> Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show > > you how. > >> Learn Now > >> > >> > >> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original > >> sender only. 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