I'd just like to echo what Steve says below.  Since 7.01 and accepting all
script updates, I find Window-Eyes to be pretty near its well known
reputation for stability.  Admittedly I run no more than a handful of
scripts.


bye for now.
Ray.
Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi Larry,

Sounds like you may not be updating all your scripts.  GW Toolkit is a prime
candidate.  If it is not updated, because other scripts rely on it, you may
crash and burn.

But to answer your question, no, I am having very few if any script related
instability problems.  In fact, I wrote my first script about three months
ago, SayClip, and I can even say that isn't crashing WE.

So I am afraid you may well have to go through some diagnostics to find out
what is wrong, just as you may with any other program.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Naessens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday 1 December 2008 17:17
To: GW Micro
Subject: Scripts, a Mixed blessing?

This is a post that I hesitate to write, knowing as I do that some here are
sensitive toward anything that they perceive as criticism of their screen
reader of choice. But I've always tried to write what I see as the truth and
> I doubt if I'll stop anytime soon. So folks, I'm just expressing my
> concerns here and wondering if anyone else shares them. And maybe along
> the way, someone will offer a suggestion that moves toward a solution for
> me and for anyone else who might be struggling with a similar situation.

> Here's the thing. When I run version 7.01 with scripts turned off, I find
> the program to be just as reliable and "rock solid" as ever.
> Unfortunately, when I do run scripts, I'm finding that to even term this
> version as stable
 would be a bit of a stretch. If scripts are running, I consistently run up
against errors at startup. And this is with running primarily the scripts
that were developed by GW Micro themselves. Further, this is happening on
several computers, be it those that I use for work or those that emphasize
more personal use.

 Is it logical to say that all of them have problems? I don't think so. The
ram varies, the specs vary, even the scripts that I have loaded vary. But
the problem of instability when scripts are running remains the same. I have

one machine that displays a Window-Eyes error every time I try to update any

script. Note that I am receiving a Winow-Eyes error, not a Windowserror. I
posted a message the other day with the error spelled out, but received no
response, so maybe I'm alone in this.
>
> Another script related problem that caused me grief was that one script
> was letting dialog boxes take over the screen completely. For instance, if

> I
opened "find" in either Internet Explorer or Firefox it took over the entire

screen and caused Window-Eyes to go silent. Turning off scripts solved the
problem./ The alternative would be to test the situation by turning off one
script then another then another and another until figuring out which one
> was causing the problem. To me, that feels a lot like working with a beta
> version which I am not doing. I simply don't have the time to be
> constantly
diagnosing issues generated by some aspect of my accessibility software. The

ability to run scripts with a respectable degree of reliability is part of
what I believed I was purchasing.
>
> Bottom line, my concern is that I have to shut off what is supposed to be
> one of the primiere selling features of the Windo-eyes 7 series in order
> to
get the program to run reliably and let me get some work done. Does anyone
else share my concern or am I alone in seeing what I'm seeing? That's what
I'm really wondering here. I can only add that such findings could indeed
affect future purchases. If I have to turn off a primary feature of a piece
of software, be it accessibility software or anything else occupying space
on my machines, I am compelled as a consumer to seriously consider my
direction in future purchases.
>
Ok, enough said. I hope the result of my expressing this concern will be a
positive and constructive move toward a solution. Thanks much for offering
some time to my thoughts.
>
Larry
>
>
>
Larry Naessens
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