Hi Darren, I thought so, but didn't know. I do know that it is a constant confusion to my sighted PA to know where I am reading on a given web page, because of the virtual buffer rearrangement of the text.
Maybe there should be a visual highlight to show a sighted person where Window-Eyes is reading. Doug, if you're listening, how come this hasn't annoyed you as a sighted person? I suppose it is because you know Window-Eyes inside out <Smile>. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: Darren Harris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday 23 December 2008 20:03 To: [email protected]; 'Eric Brinkman'; 'support'; [email protected] Subject: RE: Areas where WE is lacking compared to Jaws Yes if you're reading a page the page doesn't move hardly at all. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Nutt [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 23 December 2008 19:34 To: 'Eric Brinkman'; 'support'; [email protected] Subject: RE: Areas where WE is lacking compared to Jaws Hi Eric, Do you have an old version of PC Suite? WE works fine with it here. Just press Alt-F and the menus are read. I do agree about heading levels though, I think JAWS does this better. You can do h5 with WE to get to a heading level 5, but it would be better if you could just type 5. This is a minor point for me though, just two strokes instead of one. One interesting thing sighted people tell me though is that JAWS scrolls the screen when you are on a web site, but WE doesn't. So if you are in browse mode, and you are going down a big page, sighted people find it harder to follow you with WE. Not sure how true this is as I am total, but since our main developer is sighted, I would be surprised at this omission. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: Eric Brinkman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday 23 December 2008 19:06 To: support; [email protected] Subject: Areas where WE is lacking compared to Jaws Hi, I've used Jaws for many, many years, but several months ago I decided to make the switch to WE. However, there are several areas where I've found Jaws performs better than WE. 1. On the web with Jaws you can select headings by level by just pressing the level number. 2. WE performs rather poorly with AIM. I'm not sure if it's because I'm using an older version of AIM (version 5.something), but I have to constantly press tab and shift tab whenever I get a new message. Reading by characters doesn't work very well either. Jaws will also tell me whenever a buddy signs on, while WE does not. 3. Jaws seems to work at least half decently with Nokia PC Suite, while WE does not seem able to read it at all. 4. Jaws seems to perform better with forms. For example, when tabbing through form fields while editing them in forms mode, Jaws usually says the name of the field without me having to go out of forms mode. With We, I usually have to turn brows mode back on. This has sometimes made me switch back to Jaws when using long forms. WE also doesn't seem to work well with list boxes that allow for multiple selection. With Jaws I can just hold the control key and press space to select items, but this doesn't seem to work with WE. Should I be doing something differently? 5. Sometimes WE will randomly switch back to brows mode while editing form fields. This occurs most often while writing in the "To" field in gmail. I will start writing only to suddenly find myself back in brows mode, where I have to relocate the field and press enter to continue. 6. When running iTunes in the background, WE will randomly say something like "music tree view", and whatever I am doing will loos focus. I believe this is an Apple issue, but I figured it couldn't hurt to mention it again. #4 is probably the most frustrating of these issues. Have a merry christmas. Eric Brinkman If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. 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